Preface and Dedication
Although we knew the identity of my mother's ancestors back to James Dysart who died alongside a son on a Revolutionary War battlefield, as I was growing up, no one in my Grizzle family seemed to know anything about that line earlier than my father's great-grandfather, Matt Grizzle, born in the mid-1830s. Although I don't remember being overly curious about my ancestry until I accompanied my husband on a trip to Salt Lake City, mostly business for him but an opportunity to do some sight-seeing for me, one of the places I visited fairly early on a tour of interesting sites was the Family History Library, where I was awe-struck by the volumes and volumes of family histories and family records stuffed into that one building, and, after that moment, sight-seeing tours had to compete for my time with digging through records about my ancestors.
This brief history, which honors the memory of my parents Herbert and Sybil (Dysart) Grizzle, presents the results of research on our Grizzle ancestors. Actually, I must admit that much of the digging through obscure records in record archives, libraries, and on the internet was done by my husband, who is as happy to unearth a genealogical treasure as Quick Draw McGraw's pup was to get a dog biscuit. Together, we have sorted through these treasures and used them to form this history, with some very important contributions of records and personal remembrance by the two cousins mentioned above. My husband John will take the keyboard in lap and write some of the sections when he wants to stress something he believes important.
Although I waited too long to interview my father's brothers and sisters, their casual conversations never revealed that they knew more than he did about our ancestry. In order of age, those siblings were Irene, James Thomas, known as J. T., Isaac Lemon, Homer Lee, Audrey Isabell, Nellie Imogene, Alvin Ardell, and Catherine. Several of the brothers and sisters have children, but, of them, only Homer Lee's daughter Sherry has shown a great interest in genealogical research, and she participated in the research for this history and in its organization.
Another Grizzle family member who has contributed to the digging, analysis, and organization necessary to produce this history is Sherry's and my distant cousin Larry Grizzle. Although we didn't learn of him until we had collected most of our data, we found that he descended from my Matt's brother Larkin and that he had much more information than we on the family branch descending from Larkin's son George Washington. As did we, he continued his research even as we were writing the Grizzle story, and he shares what he found in this history. He is the contributor of much of the data in the section on Larkin.
Appendices in this booklet include transcriptions and sometimes copies of several documents that are not readily available, including abstracts of some early deeds and wills; however, if census data are readily available to potential readers, they are merely cited by source and are reproduced or annotated only when such data appear to need explanation.
Our goal is to provide a bit of history about my father's Grizzle ancestor and the ancestor's spouse in each generation from his father back as far as we have been able to trace and to provide documentation to support that person as the ancestor. For at least one ancestor and for a few brothers and sisters of ancestors, proof of the identity could be established only "beyond reasonable doubt", not with absolute certainty, and readers of this history must decide whether their standards for beyond reasonable doubt exceed mine and those of my chief collaborator, my husband John.
When we began our research, YDNA testing for genealogical purposes was just beginning to be sufficiently low in cost for many family genealogists to take the test or have a male relative take the test to see what could be learned. My brother Ronald agreed to do the test, and we have confirmed close relationships with a few other people testing, including Larry; however, according to John, who has done extensive YDNA research, too few Grizzles have tested for those testing to be sorted into any large family groups as has been possible for so many other name groups. John has discussed YDNA testing and has provided results of those tests in Appendix Y.
We have not only documented my direct Grizzle line as far back in the past as we were able but have included in this history other Grizzle relatives and their lines. In each case, we have tried, sometimes unsuccessfully, to identify and list spouses of direct ancestors and the direct ancestors' brothers and sisters. With the exception of me, my brother, Sherry, and Larry, we have not included the names of living people in the history and have, in general, not tried to follow lines forward past the early years of the twentieth century.
While the research and compilation of this genealogical record was specifically for my Grizzle line, we have attempted to discover and note names of the parents of women and men who married into the Grizzle family. Often, when we could identify them, we have listed the first generation of non-Grizzle children.
Although I knew only my grandfather, Isaac Luther Grizzle, and a few of his siblings who survived to adulthood, my Grizzle great-grandparents, James Taylor and Mary Elizabeth Gravely had died a short time before I was born, and my parents and my uncles and aunts often mentioned them in reminisicing about their younger years and sometimes mentioned, just in passing, that James Taylor's father was Matt Grizzle. Family lore had it that Matt had been a Confederate soldier, and, at the LDS Library in Salt Lake City, I had found a Civil War record for J. M. Grizzle, who enlisted in Company D, Georgia 52nd Infantry Regiment 4 March 1862.End Note That was the extent of my knowledge when we began our in-depth research, mainly after our retirements, for writing this history.
Notes for Preface
- Note: Roster of Confederate Soldiers of Georgia 1861-1865, Muster Roll Of Company D, 52d Regiment, Georgia Volunteer Infantry, Army Of Tennessee, C. S. A.; Lumpkin County, GA, Boyd Guards Name: J M Grizzle; Residence: not in the record; Enlistment Date: 4 Mar 1862; Rank at enlistment: Private; State Served: Georgia; Service Record: Enlisted in Company D, Georgia 52nd Infantry Regiment on 04 Mar 1862.
Chapter1: The Research Begins, Tracing Backward
by John Alexander
When we began our research in earnest, genealogical records from federal, state, and local archives were just beginning to become readily available on the internet, and we knew that we would likely have to make trips to search through printed records in Lumpkin County, Cherokee County, Cobb County, and Bartow (formerly Cass) County in Georgia.
As I stated previously, we knew that my father Luther Herbert's brothers and sisters were Lizzie Irene, James Thomas, Isaac Lemon, Homer Lee, Audrey Isabell, Alvin Ardell, and Catherine and that their parents were Isaac Luther Grizzle and Bertha Watkins, daughter of Thomas Watkins. We knew also that Isaac Luther's parents were James Taylor Grizzle and Mary, whose maiden name was unknown to us at that time, although I believe Sherry had had learned the identity from her father Homer Lee.
We decided to start by looking for more information on the family of James Taylor and wife Mary in Bartow and Cobb, the two Georgia counties where most of the family ended up, and we found them on the 1910 federal census in Bartow County with children George, Archie, Pauline, Ollie, and Gradie, and also nephew George Turner. Since Isaac Luther was missing, we knew there were additional children, but we had to look in other counties to find the family earlier than 1910. For the federal census of 1900, they had been in Cherokee County, where the children listed with them were James H., Isaac L., George W., Archie A., and Josie P., with James H., the oldest, listed as born October 1883 and Josie P., the youngest, born May 1900. Since James Taylor and Mary were only 36, they did not likely have any adult children who had already left home. At the time, we were unsure when James and Mary married; however, we soon found a Cherokee County marriage record that is almost certainly theirs: Taylor Grizzle to Mary Gravel, 16 November 1882. This was the only marriage record that could have been James Taylor and Mary from the time they would have been near adulthood until James H.'s birth.
Using the data found by us and Sherry, I will trace the marriages and families of James H., George W., Archie A., Josie Pauline, Ollie, and Gradie in a later chapter, but I now turn my attention to finding information about Matt, or J. M., and the claimed father-son relationship between him and James Taylor
Since J. M. entered the Confederate army in Lumpkin County, we looked there first and found a marriage between James M. Grizzle and Caroline Wimpey 29 October 1859.(1.1) Although we were uncertain that this was our Matt, I assigned the tasks of searching census records for James and Caroline Grizzle or Matt and Caroline Grizzle. He was unable to find any names that we considered reasonably interpretable as them on the 1860 census in Lumpkin County or any county nearby; however, the 1870 census in Dawson County, which joins Lumpkin County on the northeast, included Madison Grizzle, 35, and Caroline Grizzle, 28, with children William, 12, Nancy, 10, Taylor, 8, John, 5, and George, 2. William's age didn't fit with the marriage date of Matt and Caroline, but I kept this family in our records as probable.
As mentioned earlier, cousin Sherry Grizzle was engaged in genealogical research also, and she shared a document that she discovered in the Cherokee County archives, the Homestead Exemption Oath(1.2) sworn to for her and her family by Lizzie Grizzle in late 1878. She states that her husband, named as James Madison Grizzle, would not file the document, in which she lists her birth date and the names and birth dates of eight children: William Henly, Nancy Jane, James Taylor, John Henry, George Washington, Thomas Francis, Arch Wimpey, and Fannie Elizabeth. Since this list confirmed her husband's name and includes all the children – of approximately correct ages – found on the 1870 census in Dawson County, we concluded, as I'm sure Sherry had already done, that we had the correct family.
Since the family was in Cherokee County in 1878, John looked for them there on the 1880 federal census and found them enumerated as James and Eliza Griswald along with the eight children listed on the Homestead Exemption Oath. This census also told us that James reported his birth state as North Carolina and that of both parents as Virginia. Eliza reported that she and both parents were born in GA, and the children were, of course, born in Georgia.
With confirmation that our ancestor Matt was named James Madison, John and I started our search for him before his marriage in Lumpkin County, where he and Eliza Caroline married, and we quickly found the family of William and Celia Grisle, both 60, with sons William, 19, and Madison, 15, correct for our Matt. Son William, Madison, and Celia were listed as born in North Carolina, and father William was listed as born in Virginia. Celia's birth state was not as in Matt's reporting in 1880, but everything else matched.
A look at earlier federal censuses in Lumpkin County revealed that, in 1840, there was a William Grizzle and a female, presumably his wife, both aged 40 to 50, males in the age ranges 5-10, 10-15, and 15-20, and females 5-10, 10-15, and 15-20. The younger males fit James Madison and William from the 1850 census, and the ages are approximately correct for the older male and female to be William and Celia. If this was the correct family, it means Matt had a second brother and at least two sisters. Although there were three younger females, we considered it possible that one could have been the wife of the older brother, who could have been nearly 20, a hypothesis to be checked.
Since Matt was born about 1835 in North Carolina, we looked for his probable father William in that state in 1830, and the William Grizzle (Grissel) and wife we found were about the age that William and Celia from 1840 and 1850 censuses should have been. There were also eight youngsters aged from under 5 through 10 to 14, and an older female aged 50 to 59. This family was located in Buncombe County, North Carolina.
The other Grizzles or Grizzle variants on the 1830 census in North Carolina were in Rutherford County, which joins Buncombe's southeastern region, and in Haywood County, which joins Buncombe on the west. The male and female in Haywood County were too young to be William's parents, and, even had the ages been appropriate, our close inspection of the name as written on the census form showed that the supposed "G" was unlike any of the several other upper-case (or even lower-case) "G"s on the page, all of which were similar to one another. The Grizzle (Grizzel) families in Rutherford County were those of James Grizzel, age fairly close to that of William, and Henry Grizzel, aged between 60 and 69, with a female, presumably his wife(1.3), in the same age range. With them was one female, aged between 20 and 29.
Although we have tentatively accepted the William Grissel in Buncombe County as Matt's father, we cannot be absolutely certain of this identification. It is also quite likely that the Henry Grizzel in Rutherford County was William's father and Matt's grandfather, but, once again, that is not totally certain.
Since we had found Grizzles in North Carolina only in Buncombe County and Rutherford County in 1830, we looked for records of them in those counties at earlier times but found Grizzles only in Rutherford County and no other North Carolina county. On the 1820 census in Rutherford County, Henry Grizzle, age over 45, appeared with a wife over 45, a male and 2 females older than 16 and possibly as old as 26, and one male and one female between 10 and 16. It appears likely that this Henry is identical to the Henry from the 1830 census.(1.4) Separated from Henry on the census listing were William Grissel, who was between 18 and 26 with a wife in the same age range, and rounding out the family were one male under 10 and one female under 10. Enumerated on the line before William was John Grissel, between 26 and 45, and family.(1.5)
In 1810, in North Carolina, there was no Henry Grizzle, or a Henry with a possible variant on the surname; however, Rutherford County was home to John Grizzle, over 45, and his wife over 45, and their household consisting of a male between 16 and 26, a male between 10 and 16, a male under 10, a female between 16 and 26, a female between 10 and16, and two females under 10. Although we have found no records proving this, we have made the assumption that John from 1810 was the same individual as Henry from later census years, probably named John Henry or, perhaps, Henry John. From ages given on various censuses, I deduced that Henry/John, to whom we will refer as John Henry, was probably born between 1760 and 1770. Possibly our having found a John Grissel listed near Henry and William in 1820 provides support for Henry and the other John being the same man with the younger John as a son older than William.
In 1800, we found no Grizzles in Rutherford County or Buncombe County; however, in Nash County, far to the east, I found Arthur Grizel, Daniel Grizel, Herod Grizel, and William Grizel. Only Arthur and his wife, both between 16 and 25, were in his family. Daniel's family consisted of him and his wife, both between 25 and 45, a male under 10, and two females under 10. In Herrod's family, there were he and his wife, 26 through 44, a male and three females under 10, and a male from 16 through 25, and William's family consisted of him and his wife, 45 or older, a male 10 to 15, and a female under 10. The abstract of William's will shows that these men belonged to one family, but there is no mention of John Henry by either name in the abstract. Although we could not rule this William out as our family ancestor, we considered it very unlikely. Arthur was too young to be father of John Henry, the man who is most likely the grandfather of Matt. Daniel and Herrod are very unlikely prospects since no one in our Grizzles as far back as Matt has ever borne either of those names – or, for that matter, the name Arthur.
In 1790, on the federal census in Brunswick County, there was a family headed by a man whose name may be William Grissel; however, based on (1) the presence of many people with the name Grissett (and variations) being enumerated on later censuses in that county and (2) the listing by several family trees of a William Grissette who was born in the mid-1700s and lived and died in Brunswick County, we concluded that the name was Grisset instead of Grissel.
Except for the instance above, we did not find Grizzles in North Carolina on any census before 1800, and, therefore, broadened our search to Virginia, which William Grizzle had reported as his birth state for the 1850 census in Lumpkin County, Georgia. Although it is possible that he was mistaken about Virginia being his birth state since he reported the birth state as North Carolina on the 1870 census in Dawson County, if it was incorrect for him, he had probably heard his parents speak of living in Virginia. The 1790 and the 1800 federal censuses for Virginia were mostly destroyed in the War of 1812, and researchers must often turn to state tax lists and voter lists for genealogical data, which we did.
On the 1783 state tax roll, the Grizzle family, or families, if they were not all from a single ancestor, seemed to be in Chesterfield County, Virginia, where George Grissell, Henry Grissell, and William Grissell appeared. No ages were provided, but they must surely have been at least 21 to be taxed. The 1788 personal tax roll showed William Grizel in Buckingham County with one free tithe, meaning he was the only adult male in the family, and he owned two horses, with no other property listed. Buckingham County is a few miles east of Chesterfield County. On the 1800 personal tax roll, the only Grizzles found in Virginia were in Buckingham County, where Henry Grizle had one free tithe, and George Grizle had one free tithe and owned one horse. In 1801, on the tax roll and listed as being on Army Land in the Virginia Military District, there was a Joel Grissol, whose name was possibly Grizzle; however, although he may have been a relative, I am extremely doubtful that he was the ancestor since Joel has not been a name ever used in our Grizzle family.
We concluded that George, Henry, and William Grizzle in early Virginia were almost certainly members of our Grizzle family, and that the early-day Henry may have been the ancestor later found in North Carolina.
Looking for Grizzles even earlier in Virginia revealed two men who are documented as early immigrants, Humphrey Grizzell(1.6)), who arrived in 1636 with Robert Hollom as his sponsor, and William Grissell(1.7), who arrived in 1654. Many genealogists who do not evaluate all available records have conflated the two, and some have even given Humphrey the title Sir Humphrey, which appears unlikely since an immigrant whose passage was paid by a sponsor usually became an indentured servant, not a likely fate for a man with a title. I have found little more about Humphrey or his offspring; however, he appears to have had a daughter Elizabeth, born shortly before or shortly after the trip to Virginia. Immigrant William may well have been the American patriarch of our Grizzle family; however, we cannot rule out the possibility that the original ancestors in the colonies did not arrive in Virginia but instead came to the region where so many southerners' ancestors began life in the colonies, the little area where Pennsylvania, Delaware, and Maryland join. If so, our Grizzle ancestors soon relocated to Virginia.
In this chapter, we have tried to trace the ancestral line back as far as we could go in this country and have found that it extends back to colonial America in Virginia, possibly even beginning with William Grissell, who came to Virginia in 1654. We have not attempted to fill out the families with brothers and sisters, wives and husbands but will do so in later chapters, and, as part of this history, we will postulate a Virginia ancestor for John Henry, correctly or incorrectly.
In summary, it is highly probable that our Grizzles came from colonial Virginia to colonial North Carolina and, from there, to Lumpkin County, Georgia, and then moved to Bartow County and Cobb County, in the same state. These Grizzles descend from William and Celia (Smith) Grizzle, and William's father was almost surely John Henry -- or Henry John -- Grizzle, who migrated from VA to Rutherford County, NC.
Notes for Chapter 1
- Note 1.1: Georgia, Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978
Ancestry.com [database on-line].
Original data: County Marriage Records, 1828–1978. The Georgia Archives, Morrow, GA
J. M. Grizzle to Caroline Wimpy, 9 Oct 1859, Cherokee Co., GA - Note 1.2: Homestead Exemption Oath, sworn to for her and her husband by Lizzie Grizzle 14 November 1878 and recorded 17 January 1879. She listed her birth date, the children's names and birth dates, and enumerated all their belongings. Appendix xxx has a reproduction and a transcription of the document.
AUTHORS' NOTE: It was interesting to us to find that, while Matt and Eliza Caroline had almost no resources, her father's brother Archibald G. Wimpey was among the wealthiest men in northeastern Georgia. The Wimpeys must have disapproved strongly of Eliza's husband Matt, who, according to family legend related by L. H. Grizzle, was an alcoholic and usually unemployed. - Note 1.3: In this chapter, on early censuses surveyed, I will assume that the older female, if in the same age range as the head of household, is the wife. Such an assumption is not always correct; however, in this case, being incorrect does not materially affect conclusions drawn.
- Note 1.4: Listed a few pages earlier than Henry Grissel was another Henry Grissle with no data entered except the name. This makes one wonder if the two listings are not for the same person with the second listing being made because data was not available the first time the enumerator made the attempt to obtain it.
- Note 1.5: Our examination of the 1850 federal census in Lumpkin County had also produced the family of John Grissell and wife Sally, age of each given as 53, along with younger Grizzles, Elvira, 20, Marvel, 12, William, 21, and another William, age 1. The birth state of John and Sally was either South Carolina or North Carolina, and it was impossible for us to be sure. We could not, at that time, conclusively identify the older couple as the John Grizzle and Sally Taylor, who married in Rutherford County, North Carolina, in April 1813 and lived there near our ancestors William and John Henry Grizzle through at least 1820 chiefly because of age discrepancies. The John Grizzle and wife on the 1820 census in NC were at least 26, older than William by a few years, and, if the 1850 ages for the Lumpkin County John and Sally were correct,they could have been only 23 at that time, meaning the marriage in 1813 occurred when they were only 15 or 16. While marriage at that age was frequent in that era, one of the spouses, normally but not always the male, was usually somewhat older. We will not let this discrepancy in reported ages rule out the 1850 Lumpkin County John as William H.’s brother and will address the issue later as we try to reconstruct the families.
- Note 1.6: Humphrey Grizell, arrived by 1636, sponsored by Robt Hollom
Ancestry.com [database on-line]Virginia Immigrants, 1623-1666
Original data: Greer, George Cabel. Early Virginia Immigrants 1623-1666. Richmond, VA, USA: W. C. Hill Printing Co., 1912 - Note 1.7: Wm Grissell, arrival year 1654
Ancestry.com [database on-line] U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Original data: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2012
- Federal Census Records, North Carolina
- 1790 Fed Census, Brunswick Co, NC, p. 27
- 1800 Fed Census, Nash Co., NC, pp. 101, 102
- 1810 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, p. 102
- 1820 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, pp. 370, 375, 377
- 1830 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, p. 521
- 1830 Fed Census, Buncombe Co., NC, p. 220
- Federal Census Records, Georgia
- 1840 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, p. 265
- 1850 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, p. 3b
- 1870 Fed Census, Dawson Co., GA, p. 531b
- 1880 Fed Census, Cherokee Co., GA, p. 184a
- 1900 Fed Census, Cherokee Co., GA, p. 153b
- 1910 Fed Census, Bartow Co., GA, p. 18a
- Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1607-1890 Ancestry.com [database on-line].
Original data: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. Virginia Census, 1607-1890
- Compiled Census and Census Substitutes, 1790-1890 Ancestry.com [database on-line]
Original data: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. North Carolina Census, 1790-1890
- Marriages Of Rutherford County, North Carolina, 1779-1868, Compiled by Brent H. Holcomb (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1986, ISBN 0-8063-1144-4)
- John Grizel to Sally Taylor, 15 Apr 1813; Jesse Taylor, BM
- Sally Griple to Edward Coldwell, 26 Aug 1816; Henry Culbreath, BM
- Betsy Grizzle to Thomas Covington, 14 Jun 1824; Richard Covington, BM
- Rebecca Grizzle to Edmond Sutton, 30 Dec 1824; Aaron Butler, BM
- James Grizzle to Rachel King, 19 Dec 1826; Barney King, BM
- Temp Grizzle to Allen Henderson, 17 Jun 1836; Barnabas A. Baber, BM
NOTE: I cannot be certain that the Sally Griple who married Edward Coldwell was really a Grizzle; however, there appears to be a place for her in the family of John (John Henry) in 1810.
- Georgia, Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978 Ancestry.com [database on-line]
- James M. Grizzle to Caroline Wimpey, 9 Oct 1859, Lumpkin Co.
Original data: County Marriage Records, 1828–1978. The Georgia Archives, Morrow, G
Chapter 2: Starting the Genealogical
Digging, Analysis, and Assignment
by John Alexander
After tracing back to John Henry Grizzle who came to North Carolina from Virginia and finding evidence of Grizzles – William, Henry, and George – in Chesterfield County and Buckingham County in that state, I concluded that Buckingham County was likely the jump-off point for North Carolina. Since William was the oldest man, while George and Henry were in the same age range and too young to be John Henry's father, I decided to tentatively accept William of Chesterfield as the father of George and Henry with Henry being our John Henry. An earlier ancestor may have been – likely was – the William who came to the colonies in 1654, but I have not found a trail between him and the Chesterfield-Buckingham Grizzles. That either of these Williams, i.e., William the immigrant or William in Chesterfield, is the Grizzle patriarch in America is only a hypothesis, but I put that hypothesis forth here to be challenged.
Although I found several claims of births and marriages of Grizzles (and the variations in name) in Virginia in the period from the arrival of William in 1654, I found no record documenting such marriages before the marriage of Sarah Grizel to Clayton Smith in Chesterfield County, 7 March 1775. Sarah would likely have been a daughter of William who was on the tax roll there in 1783. Then, there was the marriage of Sarah W. Sladen in to a Grizzle in Amelia County, 13 February 1786. I have not visited to see the original record, but one transcription has Sarah Slaten marrying George Grizzle(2.1), and another transcription has her marrying William Grizzle(2.2). It is likely that the name was George William or William George since one sentence in the will of George Grizzle in Nash County, NC, in 1796(2.3) has the name William marked through and the name George written above. Since Amelia County is adjacent to and southwest of Chesterfield County, the groom in the 1786 marriage could have been the George on the Chesterfield tax roll; however, the groom could also have been the older man, William, marrying again, or he have even been a son not yet on the tax roll as an adult in 1783.
Along with the Grizzles, I left Virginia for North Carolina, where I first found Henry Grizzle in Rutherford County in 1810. To identify the children on that year's census with him and his wife, I had to look at later censuses and marriage records. The oldest son, based on the 1820 census, was probably John, who married Sarah, nicknamed Sally, Taylor, daughter of Joshua Taylor(2.4). The next older was William, our ancestor, whose wife was Celia, and the youngest son was James, who married Rachel King. Tempy, who married Allen Henderson, the son of William Henderson, was the youngest daughter, born between 1800 and 1810. Her age range can be deduced by her being the only daughter unmarried in 1830 and by that only daughter still with the parents being listed as between 20 and 30.
I found no marriage record for William and Celia in either Rutherford County or Buncombe County and could not determine the date of their marriage or Celia's maiden name; however, after I was well on my way in recording the tale, one of our team, Larry Grizzle, found a marriage record for his ancestor Larkin on which Larkin identified his parents as William Griswold and Celia Ann Smith.(2.5)
It is more difficult to decide on the birth order of Rebecca, who married Edmond Sutton, and Betsy, who married Thomas Covington. The 1850 census in Rutherford County shows Elizabeth Covington, whose age was given as 48, living near Tempy and Allen Henderson, and the 1870 census has her living there with her daughter Nancy (married Thomas Huntsinger) and age 70. A birth year of around 1800 makes her the second-oldest daughter, leaving Rebecca, who provided erratic ages on censuses, as the oldest.
The offspring of John Henry and his wife, whose name is unknown, consisted of, to the best of our abilities to reconstitute: John, born about 1790, perhaps one or two years earlier or up to two or three years later, in Virginia or North Carolina; William, born about 1794 or 1795 in Virginia or North Carolina; Rebecca, born in the same age range as John in Virginia or North Carolina; Elizabeth "Betsy", born about 1801 or 1802, probably in North Carolina; James, probably born about 1804 or 1805 in North Carolina; and Tempy and Sally, both born between 1805 and 1810 in North Carolina.
John Henry and his wife appear to have lived out their lives in Rutherford County, North Carolina, and available evidence seems to show that Betsy and her husband, who died early, James and his wife, and Tempy and her husband also remained in the home county. I will cover the bit I have found about the descendants of Betsy, James, and Tempy in Chapter 3. I have found nothing more on Sally, who married Edward Coldwell or Edward Caldwell and who was probably their daughter..
John and his wife Sarah Taylor, William and Celia, and Rebecca and her husband Edmond or Edward Sutton migrated to Lumpkin County, Georgia after the area was opened in the late 1830s, and they lived there or in other parts of northern Georgia for the rest of their lives. I will address the family of John and the family of Rebecca briefly in Chapter 4 before devoting the rest of this history to the family of William and Celia, the ancestral line of Val, Sherry, and Larry.
Notes for Chapter 2
- Note 2.1: Dodd, Jordan. Virginia, Compiled Marriages, 1660-1800 Ancestry.com [database on-line]
(transcribed from individual Virginia county records) - Note 2.2: Ancestry.com [database on-line]Virginia, Marriage Records, 1700-1850
Bentley, Elizabeth Petty, indexer. Virginia Marriage Records: From the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, the William and Mary College Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly. Baltimore, MD: Genealogy Publishing Co., Inc., 1984 - Note 2.3: North Carolina, Wills and Probate Records, 1665-1998 Ancestry.com [database on-line]
Original data: Wills, 1663-1978; Estate Papers, 1770-1909 (Nash County); Author: North Carolina. Division of Archives and History, Raleigh, NC - Note 2.4: Will of Joshua Taylor, Rutherford County, signed and witnessed 8 March 1827
- Note 2.5: Larkin Grizzle, listed on the Crawford County, Illinois, register, page 44, as Larkin Griswold, stated: that he would be 61 years old on his next birthday; that he was born in Rutherford County, North Carolina; that his father's name was William Griswold; and that his mother's maiden name was Celia Ann Smith. A copy of page 44 appears as Appendix C.
- Early Virginia Marriages of Male Grizzles
- Virginia, Compiled Marriages, 1660-1800 Dodd, Jordan Ancestry.com [database on-line]
(transcribed from individual Virginia county records)
George Grizzle to Sarah W. Sladen, 13 Feb 1786, Amelia Co., VA
- Virginia, Marriage Records, 1700-1850 Ancestry.com [database on-line]
Bentley, Elizabeth Petty, indexer.
Virginia Marriage Records: From the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, the William and Mary College Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly. Baltimore, MD: Genealogy Publishing Co., Inc., 1984
Wm Grizzle to Sarah W. Sladen, 13 Feb 1786, Amelia Co., VA
Chapter 3: The Grizzles Who Remained in North Carolina
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Betsy and Thomas Covington
James and Rachel King
Notes for Chapter 3
Note 3.1: It was impossible for us to tell from the photocopy of the marriage record whether the name was Burton or Benton; however there was a a Civil War record for Burton Downey, who enlisted in Company D, North Carolina 16th Infantry Regiment on 17 May 1861 and was mustered out on 31 May 1862 at Seven Pines, Virginia, apparently the date he was killed or shortly after he was killed.
Note 3.2: On a photocopy of the marriage record, the bride's name as written appears more like Mc Fannen, but, since the record reveals the marriage to have been at the home of J. Mc Fadden, the latter name seems likely. Someone who has posted the family at Find A Grave agrees that the name was McFadden.
- Federal Census Records, North Carolina
- 1820 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, pp. 346, 348, 361, 371, 380, 386
- 1830 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, pp. 497, 516, 517
- 1840 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, p. 313
- 1850 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, pp. 255a, 298a
- 1860 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, p. 348
- 1870 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, p. 90a
- 1870 Fed Census, Polk Co., NC, p. 248a 1
- 880 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, p. 465d
- 1880 Fed Census, Polk Co., NC, p. 479a
- 1900 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, pp. 14, 26
- 1910 Fed Census, Rutherford Co., NC, p. 3a
- Nancy Covington to Thomas Huntsinger, 10 Dec 1857, Rutherford Co.; She---, BM
- Mary Covington to Burton Downey, 1856; E. M. Carpenter, BM
- Elias Grizzle to Betsy Jane Milliard, 15 Dec 1859; Lozenzo D. Culbreath, BM, performed by H. Culbreath, MG
- Mary Grizzle to Gilford Owens, 15 Dec 1859, performed by H. Culbreath, MG (same day as Elias)
- James L. Griswold, 24, to Mary Mc Fadden, 27, 24 Dec 1884; performed by A. L. Taylor(?), min.; Richd Grizzle one of the witnesses.
- Sallie Grizzle, 18, to Jas H. Hyder, 25, 4 Dec 1892; performed by A. P. Hill, J. P.; Mar. (Martha? Mary?) Grizzle a witness From: North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 Ancestry.com. [database on-line] Original data: North Carolina Department of Archives and History Divsion of Arcchives and Manuscripts Typed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 80 North Main Street, Salt Lake City, Utah, 1943 Martha Covington, 23, to Joseph B H____ (listed after Hous__), 24 No dates listed, marriage never filed, possibly not performed Deaths From: North Carolina, Death Indexes, 1908-2004 Ancestry.com [database on-line] Original data: North Caroline Deaths, 1997-2004. North Carolina State Center for Health Statistics, Raleigh, North Carolina. North Carolina Death Records, 1968-1996. North Carolina Vital Records, Raleigh, North Carolina. North Carolina County Records, 1908-1967. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, North Carolina. Death Certificate #48 (also 69 stamped on certificate), 9 Oct 1917, Rutherford Co., NC; Brison Griswold, born 1844, Rutherford Co., died 8 Oct 1917; parents James Griswold and Rachel King; information by W. M. Griswold Death Certificate #24 (also 79 stamped on certificate), 28 Aug 1916, Rutherford Co., NC; Mary C. Griswold, born 1843, NC, died 28 Aug 1916; father Obedie Cochran; information by W. M. Griswold Death Certificate #245, 18 Aug 1922, Rutherford Co., NC; Myra Griswold, single, age 53, born Rutherford Co., died Aug 1922 (no day); parents Elias Griswold and Jane Millard; information by D. A. Cardell Death Certificate #230, 10 Mar 1925, Rutherford Co., NC; Emma Kiser, born 15 Jul 1873, Rutherford Co., died 17 Dec 1924; parents Lyas Grissom and Janie Millard; information by P. A. Kiser (husband) Death Certificate #178, 12 Jul 1928, Rutherford Co., NC; Mary Ann Cardell, widowed, age 61 years, 5 months, born Rutherford Co., died 7 Jul 1928; parents Elias Griswold and Jane (NMN); information by __ Cardell Death Certificate #20404, 20 Jun 1963, Rutherford Co., NC; William Mack Griswold, born 17 Jan 1870, Rutherford Co., died 17 Jun 1963; wife: Helen Cole; parents: Brice Griswold and Catherine Cochrane; information by Katherine Griswold From: South Carolina, Death Records, 1821-1965 Ancestry.com [database on-line] Original data: South Caroline Death Records, South Carolina Department of Archives and History, Columbia, South Carolina Death Certificate #20087, 9 Jan 1939, Spartanburg Co., SC; Martha Evelyne Grizzle Hyder, born 30 April 1864, Rutherford Co., NC, died 30 Dec 1938, Spartanburg Co., SC; parents: Elias Grizzle and Jane Millard; information by Joseph Hyder (husband) NOTE: her gravestone (Find A Grave) reads "Martha Jane Grizzle Hyder". Military Records Ancestry.com [database on-line] Data from: U.S., Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles, 1861-1865, Compiled by Historical Data Systems, Inc., Duxbury, MA Newspapers, Stories And Obituaries Public Land Records U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907 Ancestry.com [database on-line] from Bureau of Land Management, General Land Office Records Find A Grave https://findagrave.com: on-line data base of many cemetery burials, sometimes with photos of grave stones or information about the deceased's family. Of course, the information must be verified before being accepted as truth
Marriages, North Carolina
From: North Carolina Marriage Records, 1741-2011 Ancestry.com [database on-line] (Photo-copies of original)
Original data: North Carolina County Registers of Deeds. Microfilm. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, NC
Chapter 4: John Grizzle and Rebecca Grizzle Sutton
and Their Spouses in Northern Georgia
John and Wife Sarah "Sally" Taylor
Descendants of John and Sally have written or outlined many histories of that family branch, and I use the plural, histories, because researchers who write about them often include only one son or daughter, the one from which he or she descends. A few address all the brothers who married Jackson women but no others except in passing. Since these histories are available, I will attempt only to sort out the family following its migration from North Carolina to Georgia and to sort out the children and their marriage partners, not always a task that can be accomplished.
Although almost all histories that I have found for this family base the birth dates of John and Sally on quoted ages of 53 from the 1850 census in Lumpkin County, Georgia, I have explored other sources and believe he was born around 1792, perhaps a year or two earlier or later, instead of 1797.(4.1) While several of these histories give his name as John Andrew Jackson Grizzle, John's being named for the War of 1813 colonel and future president is fairly unlikely since Andrew Jackson was not widely known at the time of John Grizzle's birth. That does not mean that name is not possible for him, and he may have taken the middle name as an adult.
Several family histories include claims that John served in the War of 1812 from North Carolina, with some claims being that he was a captain; however, if the person serving was indeed a captain, he was more likely younger John’s and William's father, John Henry. Son John would have been no more than his early twenties by my estimate and no more than eighteen if his family histories are correct. While a soldier as young as his early twenties was sometimes made an officer in the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, and even the Civil War, this required his bringing along for enlistment a group of other men who were ready to follow him.
John and Sally had land in Georgia by the beginning of 1838(4.2) and were in Lumpkin County by 1840 census time and had eight young people under 20, five boys and three girls, with them. This group, with the addition of married sons, Lewis Madison (Madison on that census) and Andrew Jackson (A. J. on that census), accounts for ten of the eleven children. All the children are named by their father in a deed(4.3) made to them in May 1841, and their names as in that deed were Malinda, Lewis Madison, Andrew J., Elizabeth, Eliza, Polly McClure, James A., Sarah A., Nancy J., Elvira, and William C. Although I cannot be sure, censuses, while not completely consistent, lead me to believe this was their birth order.(4.4)
Although I was unable to find a record of Malinda's marriage, I concluded that most genealogists addressing John's and Sally's family correctly list her as married to Reuben Butler. In 1850, the family of Reuben and Malinda Butler was next door to the family of James and Zilla Grissell, and, in 1860, they were next door to A. J. and Jane Grizzle. In 1870 and 1880(4.5), they were neighbors of James and Zilla (Zillah) and also James's and Zilla's son James Jr. Their offspring were: William, John, Sarah, and Hiram.
Lewis Madison was one of the three sons who married Jackson women, apparently sisters. He was married to Susannah Jackson;(4.6) his brother Andrew J., who married as John, was married to Jane Jackson; and James A. was married to Zilla Jackson. Offspring of the three couples have been documented by those interested in the greater Grizzle-Jackson family.
Elizabeth married Samuel Gooch, whose surname is on the marriage record as Gouge. Their children included Elizabeth, Malinda Caroline, James M., Laura A., Mary A., Martha L., and William V.
Eliza, whose name is sometimes transcribed as Elizabeth, thus causing confusion of her with her sister, married John Lee, and their children were Thomas, Artimisssa, Samuel, Diademma, John, Ephraim, and Keziah. Ephraim and Keziah Lee, an older couple who lived nearby for several years after Eliza's and John's marriage, were probably John's parents.
Sarah Ann married Thomas Lee, who seems to have been a brother of John and the son of Ephraim and Keziah Lee. Sarah Ann and Thomas named their children Mary, Marion (son), Lecina, Thomas, Henry, Ephraim, Joseph, Clarissa, James, and Sarah. Although several people posting data on the internet about Sarah and Thomas have her death occurring in 1870, she was alive and listed along with her husband and family on the 1880 census.
I cannot be sure of the marriage of Nancy J., although most family biographers list her as being the wife of Aaron Watkins, but, while a Nancy Grizzle did marry Aaron Watkins in Lumpkin County, I cannot rule out the possibility – perhaps slight – that she was the daughter of William and Celia.
Elvira was married to James Gooch, and their children included William, Rossa (Rosa?) Elizabeth, Madison, Sarah Ann, Lucinda, Rachel, Elizabeth, James, Samuel, and John. Knowing that Rossa/Rosa married William Blackwell as Rossa Elizabeth and that Elizabeth married James Hendrix as Elizabeth may help future family researchers identify the two Elizabeths. Daughter Rachel married her cousin Alfred Watkins, son of Aaron Watkins and Nancy Grizzle.
Although one of us, John, once believed that the William Grizzle who married Sarah Gaddis in Lumpkin County was William's and Celia's son, he was probably the son of John and Sally instead. John's and Sally's son was born about 1830, and William's and Celia's William was born perhaps a year or two later. The ages reported on censuses by William married to Sarah are varied and would have him born possibly as early as 1825 and as late as 1832. The chief basis for accepting him as the son of John and Sally is the presence of daughters of John and Sally living near William, Sarah, and their children in Union County. After Sarah's death, William was married to Martha Thomason with whom he had two children. Although the groom was listed as West Grizzle, he was almost certainly William since Martha appears as his wife to whom he has been married for ten and twenty years, respectively, in 1900 and 1910.
I will leave this branch of the family that are the subjects of most of the available Lumpkin County Grizzle histories at this point.
Rebecca Grizzle and Husband Edward Sutton
As I wrote in Chapter 2, Rebecca and Edward, or Edmond, Sutton married in Rutherford County, North Carolina, 30 December 1824, and it is probable that they migrated to northern Georgia in the 1830s. An internet correspondent sent me (John) a note with the claim that, "The book Whites Among the Cherokees(4.7) states that the 1838 census for Lumpkin Co., GA, lists Edmond SUTTON with 1 adult female, 2 male children, and 2 female children." but, while I have no reason to believe the claim to be untrue, I have not been able to read the book or check the 1838 census in Lumpkin County.
I find the family in Lumpkin County on the federal census for 1850, and the household included Edward, 59, Rebecca, 65, John, 21, Mary, 16, and Nancy, 15. Either Rebecca's age or Mary's and Nancy's ages are very likely incorrect since it is extremely rare for a mother to have children born when she is around 50 years old. Although Mary married Francis Gilbert in 1850 and Nancy married Simeon Gilbert in 1852, those marriages are not inconsistent with their being 16 and 15 at census time. I believe it is more likely that Rebecca was somewhat less than 65, perhaps around 55, particularly so since the family in 1850 matches quite well with the data in the 1838 census if one of the male children had left the family or died.
Rebecca must have died between 1850 and 1860, and Edward apparently never remarried since he was enumerated with the families of his children or with others, first, in 1860, with daughter Nancy and her husband Simeon Gilbert in Habersham County, Georgia. In 1870, he was back in Lumpkin County and on the census in the family of Andrew and Jane Mullinax, neither of whom seem to be part of his family(4.8), and, for the 1880 federal census, he was in Hall County, Georgia, in the family of James Sutton. On this census, he is identified as James's father.
The 1870 federal census, on which I found Edward with the family of James, shows that, as speculated, at least one child, James, had left the family by 1850. James, born about 1824, was married to Eliza Gooch (Gouch on the marriage record), and, although his wife appeared as Jane on the 1870 census, there is no evidence that he was ever married to anyone else. Eliza outlived James, who died between 1880 and 1900, by many years, dying in her nineties.(4.9) Reference to the federal censuses of 1860, 1870 and 1880, all in Hall County, shows that their children were, Mary A., born about 1852, Sarah J., born about 1855, Amanda, born about 1857, James Alfred, born about 1859, Harriet, born about 1861, Andrew, born about 1866, Thomas, born about 1868, John, born about 1871, and Lela, born about 1873. I have not attempted to find marriages for the children of James and Eliza.
I am not sure that Edward's and Rebecca's John was married or even how long he survived after 1850 because I have not been able to trace him in records, although some family biographers list him as having lived in Monroe County, Tennessee, and surrounding areas, and others have him living in other areas in Tennessee and in Virginia. I have verified that some of these family historians are mistaken, but I don't have enough information to say whether all are in error.
The family of Mary Ann Sutton and her husband Francis Marion Gilbert, as constructed from federal censuses from 1860 through 1900 included: George Washington, born about 1852, Martha, born about 1853, Katherine, born about 1857, William Marion, born about 1859, Lucinda, born about 1862, John, born about 1867, Jasper, born about 1869, and Thomas, born about 1872.
In 1860, when Edward was living with Nancy Sutton and her husband Simeon Gilbert, both were listed as age 28. At that time, the Gilbert children were William E. age 3, and M. Catharine, age 1. Although Nancy died before November 1865, when Simeon married widow, Dorcas Glaze Graham, the 1870 census, also in Habersham County, shows that she had given birth to Mary, then 8, and Rozilla, then 5. The 1870 census also shows that the M. in Catharine's name was for Martha.
And that is all I have on the family of Rebecca Grizzle Sutton.
Notes for Chapter 4
Note 4.1: Records show that John and Sally Taylor married in April 1813, when, if both were born in 1797 as the 1850 census implies, they would have been only 15 or 16, not an unknown age for a marriage at that time; however, in such cases, either the bride or more often the groom was usually older. Their marriage record contains no note that a parent or guardian gave approval for either to marry, which, even records from that early often show for under-aged brides or grooms. The 1820 census in Rutherford County, where John's family is listed one line above his brother William's family (Val's, Sherry's, and Larry's line), lists John's and Sally's ages as 26 through 44. The 1840 census in Lumpkin County provides no help since their ages are given as 40 through 49, and I have been unable to find them on the 1830 census.
Note 4.2: John Grizzle is listed as being awarded land in the lottery for the Cherokee's lands. Ancestry.com [database on-line] Georgia Cherokee Land Lottery, 1832
Original data: Smith, James F. The Cherokee Land Lottery, Containing a Numerical List of the Names of the Fortunate Drawers in Said Lottery. New York, 1838.
Note 4.3: The following is an excerpt from a deed made 15 May 1841, Lumpkin County, Georgia by John Grizzle. "This indenture made this the fifteenth day of May eighteen hundred and forty one between John Grizzle of said county of the one part and Malinda Grizzell, Lewis Madison Grizzell, Andrew J. Grizzell, Elizabeth Grizzell, Eliza Grizzell, Polly McClure Grizzell, James A. Grizzell, Sarah A. Grizzell, Nancy J. Grizzell, Elvira Grizzell, and William C. Grizzell all of the same place of the other part witnesseth that for and in consideration of the natural love and affection I bear unto the said Malinda, Lewis Madison, Andrew J., Elizabeth, Eliza, Polly McClure, James A., Sarah A., Nancy J., Elvira, and William C. Grizzell my children and lawful heirs . . . ."
Note 4.4: The task of sorting the children of John and Sally and finding the children, the children’s spouses, and their children in other records was made more difficult by the presence in Lumpkin County of not only the family of John's brother William and wife Celia but also a Grizzle or Grissell family who, while possibly related, was not immediate family. This was the family of James Grizzle, born in Georgia and wife Mary, born in Virginia. For completeness, I have sometimes included census results for this family that was not likely closely related.
Note 4.5: On the 1880 census in Lumpkin County, at least two, perhaps three, of the family members, Mary, Jane, and Joseph, listed as daughters or sons could not have been their children because they ranged in age from 2 to 10 while Malinda (Linda on this census), listed as 66, must have been over 60 based on other censuses. The 1900 census supports this conclusion since Mary and Jane Butler lived with John Butler and his wife Arymintha (Grizzle) Butler and were listed as John’s nieces.
Note 4.6: I found it also somewhat annoying that John's and Sally's son, Lewis Madison and his wife Susannah were enumerated in 1850 as James and Susan Griswold. Only by comparing the children of James and Susan by name and age with the 1860 census data for Lewis and Susan was I able to ascertain that the families were the same.
Note 4.7: Whites Among the Cherokees, Georgia, 1828-1838; Mary Bondurant Warren and Eve Weeks, Authors; Heritage Books, Publisher, 1987
Note 4.8: Some people have speculated that Jane, the wife of Andrew Mullinax in 1870, was one of the Sutton children who left home before 1850; however, Andrew Mullinax married Emily Jane Martin in Lumpkin County in 1864, and our brief investigation supports Martin as her maiden name. I will leave it to others to do further research if they wish.
Note 4.9: Find A Grave, findagrave.com [database on-line], Eliza Ann Sutton buried Wahoo Baptist Cemetery, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Federal Census Records, Georgia
- 1840 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, pp. 258, 264, 265
- 1850 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, pp. 5a, 5b, 8a, 86a, 91b (the last not John Henry's family; included for completeness)
- 1860 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, pp. 945, 981, 982, 983, 984
- 1860 Fed Census, Union Co., GA, p. 473
- 1860 Fed Census, Habersham Co., GA, p. 846
- 1860 Fed Census, Hall Co., GA, p. 44
- 1860 Fed Census, White Co., GA, p. 456
- 1870 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, pp. 427a (not John Henry's family), 441b, 442a, 447b
- 1870 Fed Census, Union Co., GA, p. 65a, 65b
- 1870 Fed Census, Hall Co., GA, p. 314b
- 1880 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, pp. 317d, 318b, 372c
- 1880 Fed Census, Union Co., GA, pp. 122c, 122d
- 1880 Fed Census, Hall Co., GA, p. 144a
- 1900 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, p. 1
- 1910 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, p. 5a
Marriages, Georgia
- From: Ancestry.com [database on-line] Georgia, Compiled Marriages, 1754-1850
- Madison Grizzle to Susannah Jackson, 3 Mar 1836, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- John Grizzle to Jane Jackson, 16 Feb 1837, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Elizabeth Grizzle to Samuel Gouge, 21 Oct 1841, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Elizabeth Grizzle to John Lee, 2 Jan 1844, Lumpkin County, Georgia
[Note: this may be an error in the original or in transcription. Other records show Eliza was married to John Lee while Elizabeth was still married to Samuel Gouge (Gooch)] - James A. Grizzle to Zilly Jackson, 21 Jun 1846, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Elviry Grizzle to James Gouge, 8 Dec 1850, Lumpkin County, Georgia
Original data: Dodd, Jordan, comp. Georgia Marriages to 1850
- From: Ancestry.com [database on-line]
- Nancy Grizzle to Aaron Watkins, 26 Jan 1845, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Sarah A. Grizzle to Thomas Lee, 25 May 1846, Lumpkin County, Georgia
Hunting For Bears, comp. Georgia Marriages, 1699-1944 [database on-line]. Provo, Utah
Georgia marriage information taken from county courthouse records
- From: Ancestry.com [database on-line] Georgia, Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978
- Eliza Grizzle/Grizle (spelled both ways) to John Lee, 2 Jan 1844, Lumpkin County, Georgia [Note: This information came from an image of the original handwritten marriage record.]
- James Overton Sutton to Eliza Ann Sarah Gouch, 29 Jul 1847, Lumpkin County, Georgia
[Note: The bride probably belonged to the family whose surname appears in this history as both Gouge and Gooch.] - Mary Ann Sutton to Francis M. Gilbert, 30 Dec 1850, Hall County, Georgia
- William Grazzle to Sarah Gaddis, 30 Nov 1851, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Nancy Sutton to Simeon Gilbert, 5 Aug 1852, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Elizabeth Gooch to James L. Hendrix, 8 Oct 1876, Lumpkin County., Georgia
- West Grizzle to Marthey Thomason, 23 May 1890, Union County, Georgia
Original data: County Marriage Records, 1828–1978. The Georgia Archives, Morrow, GA
Death Records
South Carolina Death Certificate #9426, 23 Jul 1946: Elizabeth Hendricks, married to James Hendricks, was born 22 Oct 1864 in Madison County, GA, to R. L. Gooch and Elvira Griswell.
NOTE: Although the birth date, birth county, and father's initial are not matches for Elvira's Elizabeth, I found the evidence compelling. Madison County is a bit east of Union County, where the family resided.
Chapter 5: Larkin, Son of William Grizzle and Celia Ann Smith
by John Alexander with Much Help from Larry Grizzle
Note: Errors probably occur from John's misunderstanding information provided by Larry.
Earlier, in Chapter 1, I traced the family of William and Celia(5.1) from North Carolina to Lumpkin County, Georgia, where they were enumerated on the census as early as 1840, which showed the parents, a male of an age to be Matt, a male of an age to be brother William, an older male, who could be another brother, and three females, some or all of whom could be sisters.
As I was striving to identify William's and Celia's children, fortune smiled on our task as it occasionally does. While making a general scan of the internet in search of literature related to the Grizzle family, I found reference to a pamphlet(5.2) that contained information on a Grizzle family, and, after further searching of the web, I found a copy of that pamphlet that provided the information from 1914 that William Grizzle, an older citizen of Crawford County, Illinois, was the son of Larkin Grizzle and the grandson of William and Cecila Grizzle of Georgia. Thus, I could identify the older brother of Matt and William as Larkin.
From my research, I do not know when Larkin and his first wife Elizabeth married. Her maiden name is listed as Elizabeth Pressley on the death certificate of her and Larkin’s son James Henry, who appears by ionly nitials J. H. on the certificate; however his father is listed as Larkin.(5.3) Since their oldest child, William, was listed on the 1860 census in McMinn County, Tennessee, as being 17, while Elizabeth was reported to be 34 the marriage of Larkin and Elizabeth would likely have taken place in 1841 or 1842 if these ages are approximately correct,. William was fairly consistent about listing his age on censuses except for that of 1900 which should be the most informative; however, there, his data are frankly unintelligible.(5.4)
It's likely that Larkin and Elizabeth married in Georgia since that was his home and probably hers and also the state where the first child was born; however, before 1848, they left for Tennessee, where the next child, George Washington was born. McMinn County, Tennessee, was their home until the end of the Civil War; however, in 1860, for some reason, they (or the census enumerator) reported North Carolina as the birth state of the then-youngest child, Andrew Jackson(5.5). By the time they left Tennessee for Indiana and Illinois, the family was complete and included William D., George Washington, James, Margaret C., and Andrew Jackson.
Records show that Larkin and his son William enlisted in the same Confederate unit on the same day in June 1861 and that Larkin served a bit over one year and was discharged, while William re-enlisted for two more years. Larkin's second son, George, entered the Confederate services in 1862 and served until early in 1864, when both brothers were reported as absent for muster call. Whether they left their unit or their unit moved on without them after a battle is not in the records I found, but they apparently never reported again.
Other than the appearance of the family, minus William D., George W., and Margaret, on the census record in Sullivan County, Indiana, in 1870, records gave us no information about Larkin’s and Elizabeth’s life together after they left Tennessee, but there are records for most of the children.
William D.
William likely moved to Indiana by late 1865 or early 1866, either along with his parents and younger siblings or before them. The first record I found in Sullivan County, Indiana, for William Grizzle is for a marriage to Lowry Blankenship 26 February 1866. The former Ms Blankenship, whose name was likely Laura, did not live long or did not remain married long as evidenced by William's marriage to Barbra Stewart 11 December 1869. There was apparently a daughter from the first marriage since she appeared with William and Barbra as Elizabeth J., 4, on the 1870 census and as Jennie, 14, on the 1880 census. The marriage to Barbra Stewart produced three children who survived past early childhood, James L., Mintie, and Mattie Florence, although Mintie apparently died in late childhood or early adulthood for Barbra reported only two of five children still living on the 1900 census.
James L. married Sarah J. Owens, daughter of Noah Owens and Dorcas Wilson, and they were parents of Bertha. Sarah died in 1910 or early 1911, and James married Lucy Pearce in Crawford, Illinois, where they then lived. Together James and Lucy had one child, Hazel F.
I found no marriage for Bertha Grizzle – or variations on Grizzle – in Crawford County, Illinois, or in any nearby counties in Illinois or Indiana, and, although I found a Hazel F. Griswald who married in Marion County, Illinois, in 1917, the age given for the bride, 20, puts her birth long before that of James's and Lucy's daughter Hazel. With no leads, I followed James's family no further.
Mattie married Clifford Whitman, who seems to be listed on some marriage records, at least those transcribed, as John W. Whitman. They had a son Ray Clifford before Clifford's death in the 1930s. Mattie lived to be almost 90 but never remarried.
With this, I leave William D.'s family, which seems to have no Grizzles living today.
Margaret
Daughter Margaret apparently accompanied Larkin and Elizabeth to Indiana because I discovered a Margaret Grizzle marrying Alexander Fisher 25 February 1869 in Sullivan County. They lived most of their married lives in Knox County, Indiana, and their family included Charlie, Serena, Mary, Liza, Andrew, Clarence, and Melvin. One of the daughters, probably the one earlier listed as Serena, used the name Irene as an adult. On the 1910 federal census, Margaret informed the census-taker that she had birthed nine children but that only five were then alive. I believe that it is unlikely that any of Alexander's and Margaret's descendants have great interest in Grizzle genealogy; however, I dug up available information on the Fisher offspring's marriages and names of children from those marriages, although I found nothing on Mary, Liza, and Clarence.
Charles Fisher was married at least twice, first to Minnie Irene Richards, who died young, then to a woman whose first name was Florence. Charles's children were Cecile Dot, Flavia Agnes, David A., and Margaret G., the first three with Minnie, while I don't know which wife was the mother of Margaret.
Irene Fisher was married to John Skinner, as shown by her death certificate(5.6), which provided the names of her deceased husband and her parents. The names of some of their children(5.7), one of whom didn't survive to adulthood, were Ethel, Rosa, Raymond, Minnie, and Neola. Neola's name was mangled on several censuses, but that was the name printed and signed on her marriage application.
For Andrew Fisher, I found that he was married four times, first to Nina Pifer(5.8), with whom he had sons Marion Rex and Herman R. before her early death. His second marriage was to Lottie Pittman, but they appear to have divorced after about two years. I have been unable to find a record of the third marriage, but, on the application for his last marriage, he reported that it also ended in divorce. From one of the middle marriages, he had a son, Paul C. With his last wife, Flora Amanda Clark, a widow who reported her father's name as Oliver Fisher, possibly a relative, he had a daughter, Margaret Katherine.
Melvin Fisher was married to Edith Dawson as shown by the birth certificate of their daughter Eva Irene, who lived with Margaret and Alexander and was listed as a grandchild on the 1920 census in Knox County. Oddly, living next door to Margaret and Alexander in 1920 were John Grizzle, 86, and wife Eliza, 73, a family apparently not related to Margaret later than her and John's possible mutual ancestor in Virginia, which he lists as his father's birth state.
I have not attempted to follow the Fisher branch further.
George Washington
When the rest of Larkin's family migrated to Indiana, his son George Washington and his brood remaned in Tennessee. As mentioned earlier, George joined the Confederate States army in 1862 and served until early 1864, when he was reported as absent for duty and then a short time later was reported as a deserter. In September 1864, he enlisted in the United States army and served with the Union forces throughout the remainder of the war. He spent the post-war years in Holdenville in Hughes County, Oklahoma.
George Washington Grizzle is listed as one of the Grand Army of the Republic (Union veterans) attending the meeting of that group in Washington, DC, Memorial Day of 1949, but I cannot tell from the newspaper story whether all those listed actually attended the meeting, called an encampment. He died a few days later, 8 June 1949, one month shy of his 104th birthday.(5.9)
Larry Grizzle has much more information than we on George Washington, but we have been unable to get in contact with him since COVID.
Notes for Chapter 5
Note 5.1: That chapter addressed John Henry or Henry John Grizzle and his children, which included William. As has been stated, information found by Larry Grizzle establishes Celia's maiden name as Smith.
Note 5.2: Three Score and Ten, Fathers and Mothers of Hutsonville Township, printed in 1914 by McNutt and Musgrave Brothers, Hutsonville, IL. Refer to Appendix B.
Note 5.3: Oklahoma Death Certificate #797, issued 6 April 1932, Pulaski County, Arkansas, J. H. Grizzle, death 12 March 1932; information by Pete Sinclair, James Henry’s brother-in-law
Note 5.4: On the 1900 federal census in Crawford County, Illinois, William's age appears to be 47, while his month of birth is definitely May, and the year of birth appears to be 1833. Not only are 47 and 1833 mutually impossible; they are impossible individually because 47 would have made him only 8 or 9 when he enlisted in the Confederate armed forces in 1861, and 1833 would make him almost as old as his mother.
Note 5.5: Since the parents and Andrew later consistently reported his birth state as Tennessee, he was probably born in Tennessee.
Note 5.6: Indiana Death Certificate #18036, 19 May 1937, Sullivan County, Irene Skinner
Note 5.7: I could not determine how many children they had. The census data in 1910, when Irene was 36 state that 4 children were living. The number born was undecipherable; however, at least one died as an infant.
Note 5.8: Although one transcribed marriage record lists the bride's surname as Piser, I easily decided that it was more likely Pifer. In 1900, the census shows Andrew, Nina, and two boys living next door to Mary Wolfe, who has a young child named Wolfe and older children named Pifer. It is very likely that Mary was Nina's mother. The children with Andrew and Nina were Marion Rex, their 3-month-old infant and Maxwell Wolfe, listed as Andrew's step-son, whose birth date was given as March 1896. It is tempting to think that he was next-door Mary's youngster, but the birth date of her next-oldest child was given as October 1895, eliminating Maxwell as her child, if true. He may still be her child since she states that all seven of her children are living, while she has only four living with her, and it would be difficult to fit two more older children in addition to Nina into the available time periods. The other possibility is that Maxwell was Nina's son, born when she was about 14.
Note 5.9: "The thinning ranks of the notion's Civil War veterans lost another member today with the death of George W Grizzle 103 who served with the Union army Services will be at 2:30 PM Tuesday at the Ten West Baptist church." Clinton Daily News, Clinton, Oklahoma, 8 June 1949
Marriage Records
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Georgia Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978
Original data: County Marriage Records, 1828–1978. The Georgia Archives, Morrow, Georgia.
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Indiana, Marriages, 1810-2001
Original data: Indiana, Marriages, 1810-2001. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013
Taken from "Return of a Marriage to County Clerk" forms
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Indiana, Marriage Index, 1800-1940
Original data: Works Progress Administration, comp. Index to Marriage Records, Indiana, 1938-1940.
Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research, comp. Electronic transcription of marriage records held by the individual counties in Indiana.
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Indiana, Marriage Index, 1800-1920
Original data: Works Progress Administration, comp. Index to Marriage Records, Indiana, 1938-1941.
Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research, comp. Electronic transcription of marriage records held by the individual counties in Indiana.
Knox County, Indiana; Index to Marriage Record 1854 - 1920 Inclusive Vol, W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's Office
- - Chas W Fisher to M. A. Richards, 31 Jul 1892, Book C-13, p. 165
- - Lizzie Fisher to F. Shepard, 3 Apr 1898, Book C-14, p. 470
- - Andrew Fisher to Nina Piser, 27 May 1899
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940
Original data: Marriage Records. Illinois Marriages. Various Illinois County collections
- James L. Grizzle to Lucy Pearce, 12 Aug 1911, Crawford County, Illinois
- Mattie F. Grizzle to ______ Whitman, 11 Mar 1900, Crawford County, Illinois
Military Records
KingsportTimes, 1949: USA and CSA Vets, Memorial Day ObservanceAncestry.com [database on-line] U.S., Confederate Soldiers Compiled Service Records, 1861-1865
From: National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Washington, D.C.; Compiled Service Records of Confederate Soldiers Who Served in Organizations from the State of Tennessee; NAI: 586957; Record Group
Title: Carded Records Showing Military Service of Soldiers Who Fought in Confederate Organizations, compiled 1903 - 1927, documenting the period 1861 - 1865; Record Group #: 586957; Series Number: M268; Roll: 197
Name: Larkin Grizzle
Enlistment Date: 11 Jun 1861
Enlistment Place: Knoxville (Tennessee)
Rank: Private
Military Unit: Nineteenth Infantry
Name: William D. Grizzle
Enlistment Date: 11 Jun 1861
Enlistment Place: Knoxville (Tennessee)
Rank: Private
Military Unit: Nineteenth Infantry
- Federal Census Records, Indiana
- 1900 Fed Census, Sullivan Co., IN, pp. 14, 16
- 1910 Fed Census, Sullivan Co., IN, pp. 4a, 29a, 30b
- 1920 Fed Census. Sullivan Co., IN, p. 10a
- 1920 Fed Census, Knox Co., IN, Enumeration Dist. 80, p. 5b
- 1920 Fed Census, Knox Co., IN, Enumeration Dist. 81, p. 5b
- 1930 Fed Census. Sullivan Co., IN, p. 12b
Chapter 6: Other Children of William Grizzle and Celia Smith
As mentioned before, the 1840 federal census in Lumpkin County, Georgia, showed the family of William and Celia to include an older male, who proved to be Larkin, a male of an age to be Matt, a male of an age to be son William, an older male, who was never identified by us, and three females, some or all of whom could be Matt’s sisters. In Chapter 4, I identified the children of John Grizzle of Lumpkin County, thus eliminating them as candidates for children of William and Celia. After their elimination, I looked at other Grizzles in the same age range as John's children as possibly being sisters of Larkin, William, and Matt. Two young women seemed to be most likely.
Looking in Lumpkin County, I found a marriage of Jane Sophronia (written as Suffrone on the marriage record and usually referred to only as Jane) Grizzle to Miles Woods and a marriage of Nancy Grizzle to Aaron Watkins. Jane was almost certainly William's and Celia's child since she and Miles named a daughter Celia. I had no difficulty in laying claim to her for them since she had no other claimants except when she is confused with Lewis Madison Grizzle's daughter, also named Jane Sophronia but fifteen to twenty years younger; however, I found many people trying to construct a family tree for John Grizzle and wife Sally Taylor claiming with certainty that the Nancy Grizzle who married Aaron Watkins was identical to John's and Sally's daughter Nancy J. Since I were unable to verify either couple as Nancy Grizzle Watkins's parents, I have listed her twice, as a daughter of John and Sally and of William and Celia.
I have been unable to find the fate, marriages, residences, or even survival, of William's and Celia's son William. He may have died in the Civil War, but I have found nothing after 1850. There is a slight possibility that he was the William Grizzle who was married to Sarah Gaddis and has already been treated by us as the son of John and Sally; otherwise, he disappeared from history.
I found few records mentioning Jane's and Miles's family but have pieced together the names and approximate birth dates of at least some of the children from censuses. The family included William, born about 1848, John, born about 1850, Julia, born about 1855, James, born about 1858, Celia, born about 1860, and Mary, born about 1867. Although I cannot be absolutely certain, I believe James, as listed on the censuses, was James Madison "Matt" Wood and named for his uncle, James Madison "Matt" Grizzle.
Jane and Miles were not easily traced since they were in Lumpkin County for censuses in 1850, 1870, and 1880, but in Paulding County, several counties removed from Lumpkin, when the 1860 census rolled around, and also, as is quite frequent on federal censuses, their surname listing varied, sometimes Wood and sometimes Woods. I am unsure which they used. People doing followup research on Jane (Grizzle) Wood's family should also note that her husband on the 1850 census was listed as William Wood instead of Miles Wood.
Our research revealed that Jane’s son William Wood was married to Axel (many variations) Cathe (perhaps Catherine) Findley, or Finley. James Madison Wood was married to Lucinda "Dicie" Pruitt, and Celia, who died very young, was married to George Jenkins and they had one daughter, Carrie, before her early death. While I was unsuccessful in finding marriages or other information on their later lives for John, Julia, and Mary, more-exhaustive research might have produced results.
Nancy, who may – or may not – have been William's and Celia's child, and her husband Aaron Watkins were on the 1850 census in Lumpkin County as Walkinses, and the family included two daughters, Martha, age 2, and Rebecca, age 1. They appear on the 1860 federal census in Lumpkin three times, with the three listings having the same family information except for the surname being Wadkins in one listing and Watkins in the others. Children at that time were Martha E., born about 1848, Jane, born about 1850, William S., born about 1854, and Alfred, born about 1859. Either Rebecca had died, or she was the same child as Jane. In 1870, a family that must be theirs was in Union County, Georgia, with the same individuals, although all family members had aged more than ten years, some much more. Nancy, for example, had aged from 25 to 50. Neither age was likely correct since she was probably born in the early to mid 1820s. With all of the earlier children still home, Nancy and Aaron had added other children in 1870: Henry, born about 1860, David, born about 1867, and Alice, born about 1869.
Researchers may be tempted to believe that the Nancy Watkins of about the correct age in Union County in 1880 was Nancy Grizzle, even though the husband was listed as William, not Aaron. Since they were enumerated next door to Aaron's parents, Henry and Evaline Watkins, it might seem that the enumerator had made a mistake in a family member's name, as occurred too often; however, additional research shows that Aaron had a brother William who was indeed married to a Nancy, Nancy Rider. Thus, the enumerator appears to have made no error.
Marriages for several of Nancy's and Aaron's children were difficult to impossible to find, and I was able to be sure about only two of them. Alfred was married to his cousin Rachel Gooch and raised their family near other family members in Union County. I could find no marriage record for William in Union County, Lumpkin County or surrounding counties, but, through a circuitous route, found that he had married Emaline Berry in the early 1870s.(6.1)
In the next chapter, I turn to William and Celia's son James Madison, or Matt as he was called.
Notes for Chapter 6
Note 6.1: In scanning 1880 censuses for William Watkinses (or slight variations in the name) who were born in Georgia within two years of 1854, I found three most probables, one William W. in Habersham County with a wife named Mary and two Williams in Lumpkin County, one with a wife named Genney and one with a wife named Emaline. I chose two years since most, although certainly not all, census enumerations are within that span of the correct age. I began with the Habersham family and found a marriage record there for William W. and Mary, but, although it listed him as William W. just as he was on the 1880 census, I could not rule him out as Nancy's and Aaron's William S. since records are not always consistent. I followed the names William and Mary Watkins forward on censuses, and discovered a William and Mary in Fannin County, Georgia, on the Tennessee border, in 1900, and they were listed as Willam S. and Mary E. Wadkins. I realized they could have been either William W., with an incorrect middle initial, and Mary or the couple listed in 1880 as William and Emaline if Emaline's first name was Mary. Since I could find no other William and Mary in 1900, I switched to William and Emaline and followed them forward, noting that Emaline might be listed as Mary. I was fortunate in this attempt and found William and Emaline, as Emmaline, on the 1920 federal census in McMinn County, Tennessee, where they died a few years later. I was happy that I had noted children's names and ages on all our surveys and found one match in name and approximate birth date. Both the Fannin couple in 1900 and William and Emaline in 1880 had a daughter Rocksey, or Roxey, although the 1880 census had her born about ten years earlier than the date given on the 1900 census. I followed Rocksey/Roxey forward and found a death certificate (Tennessee Death Certificate #58-10526) that confirmed her parents as William Watkins and Emaline Berry and her age as consistent with the 1880 census. The death certificate for William S. (Emaline’s husband) confirmed that I had followed the correct track since it gave his parents as Aaron Watkins and Nancy Grizzle, and the certificate for Emaline revealed that her maiden name was Berry.
Marriage Records, Georgia
From: Ancestry.com [database on-line]
Hunting For Bears, comp. Georgia Marriages, 1699-1944 [database on-line]. Provo, Utah
Georgia marriage information taken from county courthouse records
- William Watkins to Nancy Rider, 16 Jul 1843, Lumpkin County, Georgia (included to show that she wasn't Nancy Grizzle)
- Nancy Grizzle to Aaron Watkins, 26 Jan 1845, Lumpkin County, Georgia
From: Ancestry.com [database on-line] Georgia Marriage Records From Select Couonties, 1828-1978
Original data: County Marriage Records, 1828–1978. The Georgia Archives, Morrow, Georgia
- Jane Suffrone Grizzle to Miles Woods, 10 Dec 1843 (Jane Sophronia)
- Celia Woods to George W. Jenkins, 19 Jan 1879, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Wm M. Wood to A. C. Findley, 5 Mar 1863, Lumpkin County, Georgia
- Alfred Watkins to Rachel Gooch, 26 Feb 1878, Union County, Georgia (In transcribed records, the bride's name may be transcribed as Rachel Goock.)
- Death Records
- Georgia Death Certificate #14515, 8 Jun 1927, for Dicie Pruitt Wood; Spouse Matt Wood; Parents Dave and Mary Pruitt
- Georgia Death Certificate #30537, 18 Dec 1927, for Matt Wood; Widowed; Spouse Mrs Matt Wood; Parents Miles Wood and Unknown
- Tennessee Death Certificate #11978, 26 May 1928, McMinn County, Tennessee, for William S. Watkins; Married; Spouse not given; Parents Aaron Watkins and Nancy Grizzle
- Tennessee Death Certificate #27102, 30 Nov 1931, McMinn Couonty, Tennessee, for Emeline Watkins; Widowed; Spouse not given; Parents Posey Berry and Jane Burns
- Tennessee Death Certicate #10526, 13 Mar 1958, McMinn County, Tennessee, for Roxie Annie Therso Adeline Watkins Cronan, born 24 Mar 1876, Georgia, died 13 Mar 1958; Husband: William Sherman Cronan; Parents: William Watkins and Emaline Berry.
- Federal Census Records
- 1850 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, pp. 3b (William and Celia), 5b, 91b
- 1860 Fed Census, Paulding Co., GA, pp. 778, 985, 1002, 1006
- 1870 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, p. 433b
- 1870 Fed Census, Union Co., GA, p. 65b
- 1880 Fed Census, Lumpkin Co., GA, pp. 308a, 351c, 352a
- 1880 Fed Census, Union Co., GA, p. 306a
- 1880 Fed Census, Habersham Co., GA, p.
- 1900 Fed Census, Fannin Co., GA, p. 5
Chapter 7: The family of James Madison Grizzle
We began our serious research with only the knowledge that Matt Grizzle and his wife Liza Wimpey were ancestors of Val and Sherry, and, with time and effort, we pushed the family back through William H. Grizzle to John Henry, or Henry John, Grizzle of Rutherford County, North Carolina, and ultimately to John Henry's uncertain parents and earlier ancestors back in Virginia. Along the way, we discovered other children of John Henry and brothers and sisters of Matt. The discovery of Matt's brother Larkin provided much additional information about the family and added Larkin's descendant Larry Grizzle to our team of family historians. I have addressed all this in earlier chapters, and, now, I will provide the results of some of our earliest investigations as I follow the paths along the lives of Matt's descendants.
Matt married Eliza Caroline "Liza or Lizzer" Wimpy, or Wimpey, in Lumpkin County in 1843. Eliza was the daughter of Thomas Henley Wimpey and Elizabeth, whose maiden name was almost certainly Shepherd, although I cannot be absolutely certain of that maiden name since the marriage listed for Elizabeth Shepard was to Henry Wimpy. Although the name on the bond was Henry instead of Henley, we found no other likely Wimpys or Wimpeys around as Elizabeth’s potential marriage partner, and we we will consider Elizabeth Shepard as Eliza Wimpy’s mother.
As previously mentioned Liza named their children when she filed the Homestead Exemption Act in November 1878. An image of the document and a transcription are provided as Appendix A. These children were named as William Henly, Nancy Jane, James Taylor, John Henry, George Washington, Thomas Francis, Arch Wimpey, and Fannie Elizabeth. I found almost nothing about Arch Wimpey, but I will take the others one by one and attempt to provide sketches of each and his or her descendants.
7.1 William Henley, or William Henry
I discovered very little about William, who seems to have used the name William Henry during adulthood; however, he was apparently married three times, although there were children from only the first marriage. I knew from records that he married Lulah Ellis in December 1889 in Cherokee County, Georgia, and, on the 1930 federal census, he and his wife, Ollie, whose death record showed her maiden name as Ollie Bonner(7.1), stated that they had married when he was 46 and she 38, meaning the marriage took place about 1906. In 1910, the children in the family, sons Lowie and Eugene must have been from the marriage to Lulah since they were 14 and 12. The 1920 census lists William, Ollie, and one son, Clyde, 13, who could have been either son; however, Find A Grave shows the name on the gravestone of Lowie Grizzle to be Lowie C. Grizzle, making him the likely one to be Clyde. In 1940, the census shows William, 79, and wife Ada, 54,
Son Eugene was married to Vessie Sprayberry, although a daughter Ida Elizabeth reported her parents to the Social Security Administration as Eugene Grizzle and Eunora S. Sprayberry. Ida Elizabeth was born in January 1920, a son, William Henry, was born in August 1921.
Ida Elizabeth was married to Keith Phelps Davis, and William Henry was married to Esther Walker. Esther had a daughter, but her first husband may have been the father. In any case, there appear to be no Grizzles from the younger William H.'s family.
7.2 Nancy Jane
Nancy Jane married Lewis Turner, and their family included George M., James E., Carrie E., Mabel (or Maybell), and Maud. Although I did only a brief survey, I was unable to verify marriages or adult life history for George, James, Carrie, or Maud. Mabel, or Maybell, died very young but married Henry Huey and had one daughter Beulah before her death.
7.3 John Henry Grizzle
I have almost no history for John Henry Grizzle. In 1900, he and his wife, whose name I have been unable to decipher, lived in DeKalb County, Alabama, and had no children. They reported that they had been married twelve years. Family members have reported that John moved to Greene County, Missouri, where he lived until his death, but, although this is likely correct, I could not confirm it through a search of federal census records.
7.4 George Washington Grizzle
George married to Carrie Rainey in Cherokee County, Georgia, and, by 1900, they were in DeKalb County, Alabama. They had three children, Ernest, 7, Edward, 3, and Nania, 5 months. They had moved a bit in the years since their marriage as shown by the birth of Ernest in Georgia, the births of the other children in Tennessee, and their presence in Alabama five months after Nania's birth.
7.5 Fannie Elizabeth Grizzle
I found that Fannie Elizabeth married Robert Chastain and that they had at least children, Clara, born October 1895, Jennie, born September 1897, Monterey Marie, born May 1900, Clarence, born 1903, and Bessie, born September 1905.
7.6 James Taylor Grizzle
James Taylor was the earliest Grizzle ancestor Val knew about in the beginning since he and his wife Mary died after her parents and most of her uncles and aunts were adults or at least adolescents. Mary was Mary Gravely, the daughter of William Ichabod Isaac Gravely and Sarah Josephine Stephens. They were married in Cherokee County and apparently lived there until after the turn of the century, but, after that, they lived near the border of Cobb County and Bartow County, sometimes living in one and sometimes in the other. Their children were James Homer, born 1883, Isaac Luther, born 1888, George Washington, born 1890, Archie Ardale, born 1894, Roy, Pauline Josephine, born 1900, Ollie May, born 1904, and William Grady, born 1907. There were also two children who died as infants, Cora Bell and Roy. Val and I have visited James Taylor's and Mary's graves and have photgraphed their stones.
[VAL: insert any stories or interesting items in your words or as you remembering them being related.]
7.6.1 James Homer, James Taylor's and Mary's oldest child, was married to Cleo Wright, and, after their marriage, they lived mostly in Turner County Georgia, although they stayed in Cherokee County for a few years. Their only child, daughter Jessie, was born about 1905 before they left Cherokee County. Homer and Cleo are buried in Turner County, with his dying at age 84 in 1970 and her dying at age 88 in 1972.
7.6.2 Isaac Luther
[VAL: put in stories you want.]
I have devoted more attention to Isaac Luther's branch than the others in this chapter since he is the onc about whom we have the most data, mostly because he was the grandfather of two of the researchers, Val and Sherry.
Isaac Luther was married to Bertha Watkins, daughter of Thomas Watkins and Cintha Dover, and their children included Lizzie Irene, born 1910, James Thomas, born 18 August 1911, Isaac Lemon, born 1915, Homer Lee, born 15 April 1916, Luther Herbert, born 12 March 1918, Audrey Isabell, born 29 March 1920, Nellie Imogene, born 1927, Alvin Ardell, born September 1929, and Catherine Wynette, born 1930.
Bertha's father, Thomas Watkins, merits at least an entire chapter, but that must wait because this history is devoted to tracing the Grizzle surname back as far as possible at this time.
The oldest child, Lizzie Irene, known by her middle name, was first married to Olen Goss, but he died while they were young. She then married Willis Davis with whom she had one daughter, Betty, who is now deceased.
James Thomas, known by the initials, J. T., was married to Leah Mae Lanham with whom he had two children, a son and a daughter. The son, Jimmy, who is deceased, was the father of two sons, both living. The daughter, who is living, has both sons and daughters. I
saac Lemon, known by his middle name Lemon, was married very young to Ella Mae Prather, whom Val's dad Herbert remembered as the sister of Erma Prather, the wife of his and Lemon's Uncle Grady Grizzle. Lemon and Ella Mae divorced after only a short time, and his second marriage was to Azzie Mae Goddard, with whom he had one son, Horace Eugene, born 6 March 1935. Lemon's family moved to Talledaga County, Alabama, after his second marriage, and he and Azzie died there. Their son Horace was married, and he and his wife, who is still living, had a son who is also living. The widow and the son still make their homes in Talledaga County.
Homer Lee, usually called both names by family, married Elease Westbrooks, and they were parents of three children. The oldest, a son Harvey, died as a still-young adult, but both daughters are living. The younger daughter is the mother. The older daughter, Sherry, who did not marry, is one of the collaborators on this family history. [Val or Sherry: add as desired.]
Luther Herbert, or Herbert, was married to Sibyl Evelyn Dysart, and their marriage produced three children, a son, still living, a daughter still living, and Sibyl Lucetta. The oldest child, a son, was born in Georgia, while the two younger were born after the move to Tennessee for his work at the Oak Ridge gaseous diffusion plant. Herbert, Sibyl, and Lucetta are buried in Bartow County, Georgia, and the son's wife is buried there also. Herbert's and Sibyl's son and his now-deceased wife had two sons, one of whom is a father of a son and a step-son who is son in every way except genetically. The surviving daughter, Val, is married to John Alexander, and they are family researchers and co-authors of this work.
Audrey was married first to Albert McMichen, and she married second Stewart Guyton. There were no children with either husband.
For Nellie, I could find no information except that provided by her brother Herbert: that she was married to a man named Van Sant or Van Zant and to a man named Charles Rice.
Alvin Ardell, known as Ardell, married Martha Mangrum, and both are deceased. They were parents of four children, Eugene Herbert "Gene", Wallace "Wally", a daughter, and David. Of the children, only the daughter is living, and only Gene and the daughter were parents.
Catherine was married to Clayton Edwards, but I have no further data concerning them including no information about any children.
7.6.3 George Washington
Although I have been unsuccessful in finding a marriage record for George, family members spoke of his wife as Lula Pearl Biddy, and, in fact, their son George T. listed his parents as George W. Grizzle and Pearl Biddy when he applied for a Social Security number when he entered the work force in April 1946. George T. listed his birth date as 20 October 1928. Other children of George and Pearl were William Taylor, known by his initials, born 2 September 1917, Lina Myrtice, known by her middle name, born 24 March 1919, and Clyde W., born 24 September 1926.
His sons and nephews often spoke of George, who was a very interesting person. Although he lost sight in both eyes when he was a boy, he became a carpenter, and, as a building construction foreman, was responsible for erecting so many houses in a small community along the Bartow County-Cobbb County border that the area was informally known as Grizzletown. George was not only the foreman of the crew; he also sawed lumber, drove nails, and clambered about on joists high above the ground. People found him and his occupation so unusual that a newspaper published an article that I have included as Appendix C. In spite of his blindness, George and Pearl participated in community events and lived rather full lives, dying in their eighties in 1974 and 1982, respectively.
George's and Pearl's son W. T. 's wife was Marie Dempsey.
Their daughter Myrtice married James O. Reagan. They had two sons, Ronald Eugene and David Michael and a daughter Judy, who died in her infancy. I was able to identify David Michael and Judy only because they were buried near their parents in New Zion Baptist Cemetery in Bartow County, Georgia.
7.6.4 William Grady
Grady lost a leg either while he was growing up or in early adulthood, and his nephew Herbert Grizzle, who was only about ten years younger, remembered family mentioning that the surgery was performed at his parents' home. Grady was married to Erma, or Irma, Prather, who married Cecil Brown after Grady's early death.
Grady and Erma had four children, Frank and Billy, who are deceased, and a daughter and son who may still be living.
Notes for Chapter 7
Note 7.1: Information from Alabama Death Index, 19 Apr 1937, Ollie Grizzle, age 59; Spouse: W. H. Grizzle; Parents: Joe Bonner and Carolyn Connor
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Alabama, Deaths and Burials Index, 1881-1974
Original data: Alabama Deaths and Burials, 1881–1952, Index; FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2009, 2010.
Index entries derived from digital copies of original and compiled records.
Note 7.2: Sherry Grizzle possesses a transcription of a family record, and her copy states, "James Taylor Grizzle, B. Aug 12, 1864 (Note by Sherry: the year appeared to be 1964, but 1864 must be correct.), Cherokee Co. Ga., D. Mar. 16, 1943, Cartersville, Bartow Co. M ( Nov. 16, 1882) Mary E. Gravley, B. July 6, 1864, D. Jan. 25, 1944 Parents of Mary E. Gravley: William Issac Gravley and Josephine Stephens (m. Jan. 4, 1860) Josephine Stephens, B. Aug, 1833, Ga or SC, D. May 26, 1928, Cherokee Co. Ga." NOTE added by Sherry: the birth date is apparently wrong; she was younger; 1843 might be correct.
Marriage Records, Georgia
From: Ancestry.com [database on-line] Georgia Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978
Original data: County Marriage Records, 1828–1978. The Georgia Archives, Morrow, Georgia
- Henry Wimpy to Elizabeth Shepherd, 5 Apr 1836 (license), Hall County, Georgia
- I. Graverly to Josephine Stephens, 5 Jan 1860, Pickens County, Georgia (NOTE: the r in Graverly was partially blacked out.)
- Nancy J. Grizzle to Lewis F. Turner, 30 Mar 1881, Cherokee County, Georgia
- Taylor Grizzle to Mary Gravel, 16 Nov 1882, Cherokee County, Georgia (NOTE: no y on record)
- William H. Grizzle to Lulah Ellis, 25 Dec 1889, Cherokee County, Georgia
- George W. Grizzle to Carrie Rainey, 3 Jan 1892, Cherokee County, Georgia (NOTE: the license is dated 30 December 1892, and the marriage was performed January 1892. Since other licenses on the two open pages were dated 1891, I accept 1891 as their license date also.)
- James Homer Grizzle to Edna Cleo Wright, 26 Jun 1904, Cherokee County, Georgia
- I. L. Grizzle to Bertha Watkins, 27 May 1907, Cherokee County, Georgia
- Eugene Grizzle to Vessie Sprayberry, 28 Oct 1918, Fulton County, Georgia
From: Bartow County GenWeb, http://gabartow.org/
Data transcribed from Bartow County Marriage Books; images of licenses copied
- Grady Grizzle to Irma Prather, 2 Mar 1929, Bartow County, Georgia, Book M, p. 50
- J. H. Grizzle to Martha Taylor, 28 Dec 1906, Bartow County, Georgia, Book J, p. 433
- Pauline Grizzle to Ben McCollum, 21 Dec 1915, Bartow County, Georgia, Book M, p. 504
- Ollie May Grizzle to Robert M. Ingram, 2 Sep 1917, Bartow County, Georgia, Book K, p. 608
- Arrabell Grizzle to Herbert L. Ingram, 29 Jun 1930, Bartow County, Georgia, Book M, p. 132
- J. T. Grizzle to Mrs Leah Lanham, 2 Sep 1933, Bartow County, Georgia, Book M, p. 297
- Lemon Grizzle to Azzie May Goddard, 11 Nov 1933, Bartow County, Georgia, Book M, p. 314
From: georgiaarchives.org [database on-line]
<> Data from: Marriage Books, Cobb County Ordinary Court, Georgia Archives- Archie N. Grizzle to Dora Holcomb, 8 Dec 1912, Cobb County, GA, Book G, p. 38
- Joseph E. Grizzel to Nellie Mae Moon, 31 Mar 1928, Cobb County, GA, Book I, p. 202
- Leon Grizzle to Edna Lee Waites, 6 Aug 1932, Cobb County, GA, Book J, p. 244
- Ernest A. Grizzle to Sara Hardy, 21 Dec 1935 Cobb County, GA, Book K, p. 396
- William Taylor to Marie Dempsey, 22 Aug 1936, Cobb County, GA, Book K, 602
Marriage Records, Alabama
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Alabama County Marriage Records, 180t-1967
Original data: Marriage Records. Alabama Marriages. County courthouses, Alabama
Audrey Grizzle to Albert McMicken, 17 May 1935, Cleburne County, ALMarriage Records, Tennessee
Ancestry.com [database on-line] Tennessee, Marriage Records, 1780-2002
Original data: Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002. Nashville, TN, Tennessee State Library and Archives
Linda Myrtice Grizzle to J. O. Reagan, 14 Aug 1940, Bradley County, Tennessee- Federal Census Records
- 1870 Fed Census, Pickens County, GA, p. 42a
- 1900 Fed Census, Cherokee County, GA, pp. 10, 153b,
- 1900 Fed Census, DeKalb County, AL, p. 11
- 1910 Fed Census, Cherokee County, AL, pp. 3a, 11a
- 1910 Fed Census, Bartow County, GA, p. 18a
- 1920 Fed Census, Etowah County, AL, pp. 12a, 14a
- 1920 Fed Census, Cobb County, GA, p. 9a
- 1920 Fed Census, Turner County, GA, p. 7a
- 1930 Fed Census, Etowah County, AL, pp. 11a, 16a
- 1930 Fed Census, Bartow County, GA, pp. 1a, 5a
- 1930 Fed Census, Turner County, GA, p. 10b
- 1940 Fed Census, Talladega County, AL, p. 62a
- 1940 Fed Census, Cobb County, GA, p. 1a
- 1940 Fed Census, Bartow County, GA, p. 2a
State Death Records
The Daily Home, Newpaper, Obituary, 20 Oct 2016, Esther Walker Grizzle, widow of Alvin Varner and William Henry Grizzle; daughter of Charlie Walker and Loreana Partridge
Find A Grave Findagrave.comSocial Security Records
- Ancestry.com. U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 [database on-line]
- Application, Jun 1937, William Henry Grizzle, SSN 421-01-3512, born 3 Aug 1860; Parents: James M. Grizzle and Caroline Wimpy
- Application, 5 Oct 1994, Audrey G. Guyton, SSN 253-05-4624, born 29 Mar 1919, died Sep 1994; Parents: Isaac L. Grizzle and Bertha Watkins. NOTE: on original application, December 1935, the applicant's name was listed as Audrey Isabell McMichen, and, in December 1946, the application listed her as Audrey Grizzle Guyton.
- Application, 18 Feb 2000, Ronald E. Reagan, SSN 254-58-4412, born 15 Mar 1941, died 1 Feb 2000; Parents James O. Reagan and Lina Grizzle. On application in Jul 1955, the name was listed as Ronald Eugene Reagan.
- Application, 28 Aug 2004, Horace E. Grizzle, SSN 423-38-2044, born 6 Mar 1935, died 21 Aug 2004; Parents: Isaac L. Grizzle and Azzie M. Goddard NOTE: in original application, September 1949, the applicant's name was listed as Horace Eugene Grizzle.
By John Alexander
We were not extremely far into research on this family when I took part in the Alexander project YDNA testing that helped me verify some parts of my family tree and to refute the early lineage ascribed to my tree by many earlier genealogists. This led Val to persuade her brother Ronald Grizzle to take this test, in which only males can participate since only only they carry the Y chromosome.
In the early days, Ronald's YDNA results led to only one possible connection to a Grizzle relative since few Grizzles had participated in the testing. Even today, few Grizzles have tested, but, the Grizzle DNA project provided evidence that Ronald and seven Grizzles, Griswolds, or some variation on those surnames share a common ancestor from the era after the adoption of the Grizzle name (or variation). This size makes this YDNA group of eight families – including Val, Ronald, and Sherry in the same family – the largest Grizzle group in the DNA project. One of the members is from England; however, it is likely that most, if not all, of the others descend from the early Virginia Grizzles.
I will digress for a bit of discussion about DNA, YDNA, and testing of YDNA. I have been involved in YDNA projects since the early days, and this section is a modification of a similar discussion I wrote for the history of my Alexander family.
YDNA Testing: How it all works
You can find all this information in almost any modern book on human biology, but I'll summarize it to make it easy, I hope. Actually, I found it difficult not to get lost in all the discussions of DNA mutation, short tandem repeat (STR), haplotype, allele, single nucleotide, single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP, which is usually just called a SNIP), and haplogroup; therefore, I'll define each term so that anyone interested can look back for reference. Still, I'll try to use most of the terms sparingly, often substituting other words.
To begin, we need to introduce cells, chromosomes, and DNA, all words you probably remember from high-school biology, even if you are as old as I am. Our bodies are formed of cells, and the nucleus of every normal cell in our bodies contains 46 chromosomes, 23 from each parent. Occasionally, there are people with exceptions, but the exceptions are rare. Each chromosome is made up of a DNA molecule wrapped around other material.
Two of these 46 chromosomes are the sex chromosomes. For each female, the sex chromosomes are both X chromosomes, one given by her mother and one given by her father. For each male, one sex chromosome is an X chromosome from his mother, and one is a Y chromosome from his father. The Y chromosome is always inherited from the father; so it comes down to each male from his father, from a grandfather, from a great-grandfather, and on back to a very ancient human male.
The DNA molecule looks like two spirals with bars joining the spirals, the "double helix." If we uncoil the DNA molecule (second illustration) and stretch it out, it looks like a ladder. The rungs of the ladder are called bases, and each rung is made up of two bases called a base pair with each alphabetical character representing one of the four different DNA components.
The letters A, T, C, and G stand for Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, and Guanine; however, the only facts important for our purposes is that there are four distinct types of DNA components that can be distinguished from each other and that the components are always paired the same. An Adenine base (A) on one side of a rung is always matched with a Thymine base (T) on the other side, and vice versa. A Cytosine base (C) on one side is always matched with a Guanine base (G) on the other side.
A segment of a DNA molecule might consist of four or five components, perhaps as simple as GTTC (above), repeated over and over, with the second G in our example hidden by the helix strip. Before this sequence began with the first G, there was some other sequence. Personnel at DNA-testing laboratories and other genetic scientists call the sequence that is repeated a short tandem repeat (STR), but the STRs selected for testing may also be called markers because that is the designation often used by laboratories, and marker is the name we will use. The marker to be tested ends when the sequence changes from repetitions of GTTC or whatever sequence was present to repetitions of a different combination, perhaps TAGCC. We need to consider the bases on only one side because when a sequence changes on one side, it changes on the other. This occurs because, as emphasized earlier, the same bases are always paired; for example, T as a base on one side of the unwound molecule is always paired with A as the base on the other side. Thanks to mapping done during the Human Genome Project, the exact location on the YDNA molecule, the helix, is known for each marker that genetic laboratories have designated as sites that are suitable for genealogical testing.
As already stated, a segment of DNA, which may be called a marker when it is tested in a laboratory, can have many repetitions of the same sequence of base pairs. The number of repetitions usually ranges from about seven to more than forty; however, the range of values for any given marker is much smaller, with more than ten possible values (alleles, if you wish) being extremely unusual. Examples from the Alexander DNA project illustrate the relatively few values found even for markers where mutations occur most frequently. Marker DYS439, a rapidly mutating marker has values ranging from 10 to 14, with almost all the repetitions being 11, 12, or 13. Marker DYS449, also a rapid-mutation site, has values from 26 to 34, but very few at either extreme, mostly 29, 30, 31, or 32. DYS390, which does not mutate rapidly, has values from 21 to 27 but, out of approximately 300 men tested at the time I did the analysis, there were only two values of 21 and only one value of 27. DYS454, which mutates extremely slowly, has only one value, 11, for all members of the project. In the male population at large, values of 10 and 12 occur for marker DYS454, although rarely.
For each person tested, each marker has a specific value, and the collection of those values is his haplotype. People who are closely related should be the same haplotype or have only a few mismatched values; however, there is some possibility of change each time YDNA passes from father to son. Although this means that even a man and his father may have one or more mismatches, the mutation rate is slow enough that mismatches in projects of more than a dozen members will likely range from zero to four or five (out of sixty-seven) for people whose lines split in the days of Colonial America.
In addition to testing for the times a sequence of pairs repeats before changing, there is another type of YDNA test that can help in determining relationships, the test for a single nucleotide polymorphism, the SNP or SNIP, mentioned earlier. Although the SNP test is not routinely performed as part of the YDNA test, DNA genealogists and genetic anthropologists define a haplogroup by reference to the SNP that distinguishes it from all other haplogroups, meaning we need another method to make distinctions rather accurately. We will discuss this shortly. The person in whom the SNP occurred would likely be considered to be in the same haplogroup as his father, uncles, brothers, and cousins, but he might later be assigned the title of the progenitor of a new haplogroup if he has a very large number of male-line descendants, but that would not be known for several generations after he lived.
With the necessary words and terms defined simply but not incorrectly, I hope, let us look far, far back in prehistory to the lifetime of the most-recent man from whom all living men descend. This doesn't mean that there were not other men alive at that time also, but, over the centuries and millenia, the lines of the other men ceased having males born to the lines. To make that concept easier to understand, consider that, if you are a Grizzle, your Grizzle great-great grandfather may have had five brothers and that, out of all six men, there may be living male-line descendants of only one, your great-great grandfather. Although it's also possible that all the brothers have living male-line descendants, lines often die out, as several women seeking male cousins to take the YDNA test have discovered!
Let us call the haplogroup of this ancestor of all living men "A," with the knowledge that there is nothing special about calling it A. We could just as well have called his haplogroup "Jim," if that was the name he used. His father, his brothers and, perhaps, many uncles and cousins in the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods probably belonged to the same haplogroup and might have objected to their group being dubbed Jim, but that would have been their problem, not ours. Anyhow, the brothers', uncles', and cousins' male lines all died out, leaving only Jim's male descendants. We have called that descendant and all his descendants haplogroup A, at least up to the point that someone in the group had a SNP. SNIP! Their STR, or marker, values may have differed slightly from one man to another, but they all belonged to the same haplogroup.
If Jim's descendant in whom the SNP occurred had a large number of descendants in his own male line, the SNP produced a new haplogroup that we could call A1, which is probably the designation actually given by genetic anthropologists, or we could call the new haplogroup B or X or whatever we wished. Names aren't particularly important except to distinguish one group from another, and the responsible organization changes haplogroup names from time to time. Call the new group A1, and the world now had two patrilineal haplogroups, A and A1. Although the man in whom the SNP occurred and resulted in creation of haplogroup A1 had marker values almost identical to those of most of his cousins who remained in haplogroup A, marker-changing mutations occurred in both groups as generations passed. Over time, by chance, these marker-changing mutations would likely make the most common marker values in one haplogroup different from the most common marker values in the other.
Since a genetic mutation produced haplogroup A1 from haplogroup A, it shouldn't come as a surprise that additional mutations occurred in A and A1. Some of the mutations were SNPs, and some were increases or decreases in the values associated with DNA markers. Both types occurred, slowly but inevitably and produced more haplogroups and more variation in marker values among the haplogroups. Each haplogroup has come to have marker values that are almost a signature for that haplogroup, not the value of any specific marker but the values of a group of markers. This cannot be done with extreme confidence for the Grizzle project since too few (including Grizzells, Grissells, Griswolds) have tested, with only three testing at more than 67 markers; however, for example, a genetics expert can look at the marker values for a person in one of the larger YDNA projects and say with almost, but not quite, perfect certainty that the person belongs to a specific haplogroup without a test for that haplogroup's SNP being performed. Such discrimination will probably take comparison of several tens of markers.
YDNA Testing And The Grizzle Project
In the project, we learned that most of those testing match no other participant closely. Only those that we will call the "Virginia Colonials," remembering that one of those "Colonials" is British, seem to be a family group. Although the YDNA from the Virginia Colonials match one another quite closely, the mismatches between them and any other participant suggest a separation of at least a thousand years, usually several thousands, forcing one to conclude that the Virginia Colonials are no closer to any other of the testers genetically than to almost any person they might meet casually on the street.
From the discussion so far, it is likely apparent to all that, in general, YDNA markers for men of a common surname can match closely or match very poorly, and, if they have tested on a sufficient number of markers, it is usually easy to determine whether they have a recent common ancestor of that surname. Good matches between individuals with the same surname mean they are likely related unless there is reason to believe otherwise; for example, if one man's family has deep roots in Britain, and the other's family has roots in southern Europe or Russia, they probably have no recent common ancestor. Although it is fairly unusual to have an exact match on all tested markers between two people whose most-recent common ancestor lived in the eighteenth century, there is likely to be no more than one, two, or three mismatches even then, but remember that the exactness of the match does not depend directly on the closeness of the kinship since the mutation that results in the mismatch occurs in the passing of the YDNA from father to son, with there being cases where a father-son mutation produced a two-step difference in a marker or even differences in two sites. As examples, in large YDNA projects, you will find exact matches on all markers with a person of the same surname but with no common ancestor born later than about 1700, while each of them differs on one or more markers with a closer cousin. Anyone familiar with probability theory can perform statistical analysis that shows any two people mismatching on more than three or four markers out of thirty-seven tested are very unllikely to have a common male-line ancestor since 1700 or thereabout.
Members Haplogroup R-M269 | Mismatches with Modal Value on 37 Sites |
3 Test Participants | 0 |
4 Test Participants | 1 |
1 Test Participant | 2 |
We cannot be absolutely certain that the individual who differs from the mode on 2 out of the 37 markers which he had tested is a close cousin to the others; however, he and several others have assumed kinship to one another. Most of this group have tested on 67 markers, and three participants have taken the SNP test which includes testing on 111 markers. It is important to remember that Griswell, Grizzell, and Griswold have been used by the Virginia Colonial family, and the the surname Griswold is used by at least one branch today.
Descendants of three Grizzle or surname variant not in the Colonial Virginia group tested: James Grizzle (or Griswell), Edward Grissell/Griswold, and William Grizzle. The extremely high number of mismatches of William to the Colonial Virgina group supports the claim that the line is from a female Grizzle. James and Edward have fewer mismatches but still differ from the Virginia group on at least 12 of the 37 markers tested. This means that the probability of one of the other family groups having a common male-line ancestor with the Virginia Colonial group within the last several thousand years is almost zero.
Appendix A
Homestead Exemption Oath, Nov. 14th, 1878
Lizer C. Grizzle, Wife of
James M. Grizzle
Exemption Personalty
State of Georgia Cherokee County
To the Honorable Ordinary of said County
The petition of Mrs Lizer Grizzle respectfully showeth that she is the head of a family and is a citizen of said county, family consisting of her husband James Madison Grizzle (her husband refusing to take the homestead), also herself, 36 years old in January next, and 8 children, age and names as follows: Wm Henly, age 18 years 2nd day of last August, Nancy Jane, age 17 years 5th day of last February, James Taylor, age 14 years old 12th day of last August, John Henry, age 12 years 21st last September, George Washington, 10 years old 0th of last June, Thomas Francis, 5 years old 16th last August, Arch Wimpey, 2 years old 11th last February, Fannie Elizabeth, 8 months old, the 27th day of this month (November). The exemption of personalty is sought for the petitioner, her husband, & children aforesaid. And your petitioner desires the benefits of the new constitution of Georgia, passed in 1877, for herself and family out of the annexed schedule to be exempt from levy and sale by virtue of any process whatever for their benefit on the following property, to wit, not exceeding $1600.00.
Schedule A
Two cows & two calves, one cow red, one white, one red, & one white & red spotted | $40.00 |
Seven head hogs, red ----- & dark m---ed | 21.00 |
Two head white sheep | 4.00 |
Three hundred bushels corn | 180.00 |
Three thousand bundles fodder | 30.00 |
Fifty galons sorghum | 20.00 |
One horse wagon, common kind? | 17.50 |
Household and kitchen furniture | 100.00 |
Farming implements | 8.00 |
Fifteen hundred pounds seed cotton | 42.50 |
Sixty bushels cotton seed | 6.00 |
Bible & other books | 5.00 |
One wheel | 1.00 |
Shucks off 300 bushels corn | 10.00 | ====== | $494.00 |
Said property now belonging to her husband, petitioner is desirous should belong to & vest in the family aforesaid.
Schedule B
List of creditors | Post Office |
Isaac Ingram | Holly Springs, Cherokee Co., Ga |
Louisa Lovinggood | Cherokee Mills?, " " " |
James Pend-e | Sutalla?, " " " |
And now comes petitioner, Lizer C. Grizzle, who on oath says that the above schedule is correct to the best of her knowledge & belief and that the avove list of creditors and the post office is true. Sworn to & subscribed before me this Nov 14th 1878.
her
Lizer XC. Grizzle
marker
All of which is prayed & notice & c & your time of hearing & c Petitioner will ever pray.
Lizer C. Grizzle by her Atty
B. F. Payne
Georgia Cherokee County Sworn to this Dec 6th 1878 O. W. Putnam Ordinary | || || || || | And now comes W. _. Reece who on oath says that he has served all the creditors as the law requires. |
Filed in office Nov 14th 1878 | O. W. Putnam Ordinary |
Cherokee Court Ordinary at Chambers | Dec 27th 1878 |
O. W. Putnam Ordinary |
Approved
Recorded January 17th 1879
James W. Hudson Clerk
Ememption Oath, Page 1
Reading the oath as written is difficult, and, if you wish to do so, you should copy it and enlarge it.
Appendix B
Document From Crawford County, Illinois
With Reference to Larkin Grizzle and
William and Celia Grizzle
The copyright for the original booklet, printed in 1914, has expired without renewal. The Crawford County, Illinois, Genealogical Society has edited the text by addition of an introduction and has a copyright on that edited version, which they had made available on the internet (Copyright 1996-2016 Crawford County, ILGenWeb). They have no objection to our printing the original; however, they could not address the original publisher's copyright. Since we do not have permission to include their added introduction, we omit it and provide this, our own introduction. As with other parts of the history, people have our permission to reprint it if they give credit to the original work; however, they may not publish any portion of this work for profit.
Three Score and Ten, Fathers and Mothers of Hutsonville Township, printed in 1914 by McNutt and Musgrave Brothers, Hutsonville, IL
The following is a brief record of the men and women of Hutsonville township, Crawford County, Illinois, who have lived the allotted time of three score and ten years. Besides giving an account of each person as to name and birth, name of parents and grandparents, to whom they were married and the number of children, we give a few general characteristics concerning them. Eighty-seven are 70 years old and over - 46 men and 41 women; 45 live in the village of Hutsonville, 16 in the village of West York and 26 in the country. All have been married and 83 are the parents of children 39 are the parents of seven children and over and 16 are the parents of ten children; 86 were born in United States; 37 were born in Crawford county; 69 own their own homes; about 24 receive benefits from pensions; 36 use tobacco; 13 cannot read nor write, 3 are blind; 1 cannot walk; 15 live alone, and about 57 profess religion. Two were born in January, 13 in February, 9 in March, 9 in April, 9 in May, 8 in June, 6 in July, 4 in August, 8 in September, 4 in October, 6 in November and 9 in December. After this information was gathered for private satisfaction McNutt & Musgrave Bros. decided to furnish their friends and customers this account of the fathers and mothers of our township by having it arranged so it can be preserved for future reference by you and your children and grand children. We also remember that these aged people were friends, neighbors and customers of J. M. McNutt, J. R. Hurst, Wm. P. Musgrave, and Nathan Musgrave, who were our fathers and grandfathers. We believe this record will be appreciated and trust it will be preserved for the longer it is kept, the more interesting it will be.
Yours very respectfully
McNutt & Musgrave Bros.
A Bit of History of the Members of the Firm of McNutt & Musgrave Brothers
Jesse Musgrave was the great-grandfather of all the members of the firm of McNutt & Musgrave Bros. He was the son of James and Hannah Musgrave, and he (Jesse) died in 1808 on the Nuce River in Wayne County, North Carolina. His descendants have been associated together in a business way almost ever since Hutsonville was laid out. The first general store of any importance in Hutsonville was built on the river front just east of the present hardware store. This was a two-story building, with a large pork packing house in connection, and was conducted by Nathan Musgrave, Wm. Cox and Wm. Hurst, the latter being a brother of the late John R. Hurst, and they were nephews of Nathan Musgrave. This firm did an extensive business for the day and continued from about 1837 to 1850. About 1854 W. P. Musgrave, son of Nathan Musgrave, formed a partnership with the late Dr. Meserve of Robinson. Meserve & Musgrave sold drugs in a small building that stood near where the Farmers & Merchants bank now stands. After a short duration this firm dissolved and in 1861 W. P. Musgrave and Wm. Coffin, a brother-in-law, formed a partnership and started a general store on the ground where the present Hurst Bros. store now stands. After one year Coffin withdrew and Dr. Thomas Kennedy, also a brother-in-law of W. P. Musgrave, became a partner. After a short time Kennedy withdrew and in 1864 W. P. Musgrave and John R. Hurst formed a partnership. Musgrave & Hurst continued the business about one year when Isaac Lowe, father of Judge A. L. Lowe, bought Musgrave out. J. R. Hurst continued in business until his death in 1886. In 1885 J. M. McNutt, the son-in-law of J. R. Hurst, bought the stock and building of J. J. Golden where the present firm of McNutt & Musgrave Bros. now does business. In 1897 N. A. Musgrave became a partner of J. M. McNutt and the firm of McNutt & Musgrave did business until Mr. McNutt's death in 1900, when B. O. McNutt, his son, took charge of the McNutt interest, and the firm continued until 1094 when Mahlon Musgrave became a partner, and since that time McNutt & Musgrave Bros. have continued the business.
James Bennett: age 92, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 25, 1822, son of George and Hannah Bennett; married 1844 to Sarah Bailiff; born 11 children, 6 living.
Solomon Stanfield: age 90, born in Kentucky Dec. 2, 1823, son of Geo. and Mary Stanfield; married in 1849 to Edna Privit; born 4 children. Married again to Anna R. Barker; 1 child. Married again to Lurinda Nichols; 2 children. Married again to Sarah A. Thompson; 1 child.
Cyrus Newlin: age 89, born in Hutsonville township June 3, 1825, son of James and Elizabeth Newlin, grandson of John Newlin; married March 18, 1846 to Eliza A. Hill; born 3 children, 1 living. James Newlin died age 80 and Eliza at 85.
Winfield McCrory: age 88, born in Tennessee Feb. 20, 1826, son of James and Diana McCrory, grandson of Wm. McCrory; married March 9, 1852 to Lucinda Boatright; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again to Zilphia S. Hill; born 4 children, 2 living. James McCrory died at the age of 65 and Diana at 55.
Cyrus Miller: age 88, born in Ohio Feb. 26, 1826, son of John and Anna Miller; married Oct. 20, 1845, to Mary A. Rush; born 1 child. Married again to Lila Braden; born 2 children.
Henry A. Voorheis: age 87, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 14, 1826, son of Mahlon and Eliza Voorheis, grandson of Cornelius and Jemima Voorheis; married in 1856 to Eliza Cox; born 6 children, 5 living. Mahlon Voorheis died at age 50 and his wife at age 59.
T. Elza Kennedy: age 86, born in Clark County, Indiana Dec. 25, 1827, son of David and Percilla Kennedy, grandson of James Kennedy; married to Jane Irwin; born 10 children, 7 living. David died age 80 and Percilla at 85.
James Plew: age 86, born in Sullivan County, Indiana Feb. 29, 1828, son of Simon and Elizabeth Plew; married Elizabeth Salesbury; born 6 children, all living. Simon Plew died aged 50 and his wife at age of 84.
Susan (York) Correll: age 85, born in Hutsonville township July 28, 1828, daughter of John and Martha York; married to Thomas Correll; born 10 children, 5 living.
Wm. P. Musgrave: age 85, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 12, 1828, son of Nathan and Mary Musgrave, grandson of Jesse and Isabelle Musgrave; married in 1849 to Percilla Coffin; born 5 children, 1 living. Married again in 1865 to Catherine Voorheis; born 7 children, 3 living.
James Morin: age 85, born in Kentucky Dec. 18, 1828, son of Walter and Margaret Morin; married to Nancy McKinley Wade; born 4 children, 2 living. Walter and Margaret Morin both died at age 85.
Maria (Smith) Daffron: age 85, born Feb. 2, 1829, daughter of David and Elizabeth Smith; married to James Reel; born 10 children, 5 living. Married again to Elijah Daffron. David Smith died at age of 70 and Elizabeth at 85.
Elizabeth (Foster) Draper: age 85, born at York Feb. 17, 1829, daughter of Barker and Belinda Foster; married in 1850 to Wm. L. Draper; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again to R. B. Higgins.
Eliza (Harris) Southard: age 84, born in Hutsonville township Oct. 1, 1829, daughter of Andrew and Anna Harris; married in 1848 to Thomas Southard; born 6 children, 2 living. Andrew Harris died age 62, and Anna at age 67.
David Shire: age 84, born in Pennsylvania March 12, 1830, son of Jacob and Catherine Shire; married to Sarah Durham; born 2 children. Married again to Iva Bowman; born 6 children, 5 living. Jacob Shire died aged 58 and Catherine at 78.
Nancy (Dawson) Cox: age 83, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 26, 1831, daughter of Daniel and Hester Dawson, granddaughter of Daniel and Anna Dawson; married to Wm. R. Cox; born 4 children, all living. Daniel Dawson died age 70 and Hester at age of 99.
Mary (McKinley) Morin: age 83, born in Indiana Dec. 12, 1831, daughter of Wm. and Nancy McKinley, granddaughter of James and Jane McKinley; married to Gabriel Wade; born 5 children, 2 living. Married again to James Morin; born 4 children, 2 living. Wm. McKinley died age 82 and Nancy at age of 57.
Deborah (Spencer) Canada: age 82, born in Indiana May 10, 1832, daughter of Thomas and Sarah Spencer; married to Wm. Canada; born 9 children, 4 living. Thomas Spencer died age 75 and Sarah at 60.
Sophia (Correll) Jordan: age 82, born May 13, 1832, daughter of Hiram and Rebecca Correll; married John Jordan; born 4 children, 2 living, Ola and Clint.
Samuel Lindley: age 82, born in Hutsonville township May 28, 1832, son of Wm. and Mary Lindley, grandson of Wm. and Mary Lindley; married in 1861 to Harriet Hollenbeck; born 7 children, 6 living. Wm. Lindley died at 57 and Mary at 85.
Sarah (Buckner) Bell: age 81, born in Hutsonville township July 25, 1832, daughter of Henry and Martha Buckner, granddaughter of Elias and Sarah Buckner; married Feb. 1, 1848 to Wiley Bell; born 5 children, 3 living. Henry Buckner died at 35 and Martha at 45.
Jane (Coryell) Ferguson: age 81, born in Ohio Nov. 18, 1832, daughter of Hiram and Amanda Coryell, granddaughter of Daniel and Sarah Coryell; married in 1855 to John Rogers; born 1 child. Married again in 1865 to John Ferguson; born 1 child. Hiram Coryell died at 59 and Amanda at 55.
Eliza (Stuck) Ralston: age 81, born in Indiana Nov. 29, 1832, daughter of Wm. and Mary Stuck, granddaughter of John and Susan Stuck; married in 1859 to Andrew Ralston; born 6 children, 3 living. Wm. Stuck died at 51 and Mary at 67.
Eliza (Cox) Voorheis: age 81, born in Hutsonville township March 12, 1833, daughter of Thomas and Debby Cox, granddaughter of John and Zelpha Cox; married in 1856 to Henry A. Voorheis; born 6 children, 5 living. Thomas Cox died at 63 and Debby Cox died at 65.
Margaret (Grimes) Walters: age 81, born on Walnut Prairie April 20, 1833, daughter of Emanuel and Lydia Grimes; married in 1852 to Andrew J. Knight; born 5 children, 1 living. Married again to Mose Walters; born 1 child. Emanuel Grimes died at 50 and Lydia at 52.
Seth Wade: age 80, born in Indiana July 15, 1833, son of Seth Wade; married to Ellen Osborn; born 6 children, 3 living.
Louisa (Orcutt) Orcutt: age 80, born in Hutsonville township August 3, 1833, daughter of Hiram and Bethlehem Orcutt, granddaughter of Charles Orcutt, married Sept. 2, 1852 to Donley Orcutt; born 1 child, deceased. Hiram Orcutt died at 40 and his wife at 25.
Harrison Correll: age 80, born in Hutsonville township August 24, 1833, son of Alfred and Mehalia Correll, grandson of John and Mary Correll; married Nancy Hill; born 10 children, 2 living.
Wm. J. Colliflower: age 80, born in Maryland Sept. 18, 1833, son of Peter and Mary Colliflower; married Jan. 3, 1860 to Sarah A. Horning; born 10 children, 7 living.
Burnemo (Canaday) McDonald: age 80, born in Indiana Dec. 15, 1833, daughter of Richard and Mary Canaday; married Richard McDonald, born 6 children, 3 living.
Hannah (Shewmann) Adams: age 80, born in Ohio Dec. 20, 1833, daughter of Christian and Anna Shewmann; married to Lewis Adams, born 8 children, 5 living.
Alfred Correll: age 80, born in Hutsonville township Jan. 19, 1834, son of Hiram and Rebecca Correll, grandson of John and Mary Correll; married Sarah J. York. Married again to Mary Hill; born 10 children, 4 living.
Enoch Scotten: age 80, born in Indiana March 12, 1834, son of Emery and Mary Scotten; married to Ellen Dance; born 2 children, 1 living, Melville. Married again to Ellen Montgomery; born 5 children, 3 living, Emily, Elery and Clint.
Hannah (Ogden) Ormiston: age 80, born in Melrose township, Clark Co., April 25, 1834, daughter of Benjamin and Polly Ogden; married Jeremiah North; born 2 children. Married again to Benjamin Ormiston; born 5 children, 4 living.
Marion Sackrider: age 79, born in Hutsonville township Sept. 20, 1854, son of Solomon and Malinda Sackrider, grandson of John and Mary Sackrider; married in 1858 to Mary A. Lindley; born 6 children, 5 living. Married again in 1876 to Rose Bennett; born 3 children, 2 living. Solomon and Malinda Sackrider died at the age of 45.
Martin Newlin: age 79, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 16, 1835, son of Andrew Sr. and Rachel H. Newlin, grandson of James and Elizabeth Newlin; married in 1863 to Emma J. Hill; born 4 children, 3 living. Married again in 1885 to Angeline Piety. Andrew Newlin died at 67 and Rachel at about 23.
Sarah (York) Correll: age 79, born March 28, 1835; married Alfred Correll; born 10 children, 4 living.
Mary (Cox) Rains: age 79, born in Hutsonville township April 6, 1835, daughter of Thomas and Debby Cox, granddaughter of John and Zelphia Cox; married in 1856 to Lafayette Rains, born 9 children, 4 living.
Sarah (Guyer) Conrad: age 78, born in Hutsonville township June 15, 1835, daughter of Axiom and Susan Guyer; married in 1861 to James Conrad; born 6 children, all living.
Margaret V. (Vaugenburg) Conell: age 78, born in Ohio July 24, 1835, daughter of John and Iva Vaugenburg, granddaughter of Thomas Vaugenburg; married in 1863 to Samuel J. Conell; born 4 children, 1 living.
J. Alfred Lowe: age 78, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 8, 1835; married in 1858 to Elizabeth Kottel; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again in 1875 to Nancy Cox; born 8 children, 6 living.
Marshall Johnson: age 77 , born in Indiana April 16, 1836, son of Zachariah and Delilia Johnson, grandson of Arthur and Luthia Johnson; married in 1858 to Marietta Bert; born 7 children, 1 living. Married again in 1893 to Anna Smith. Zachariah died at 77, his wife at 31.
Benjamin Ormiston: age 77, born in Ohio April 27, 1836, son of David and Mary Ormiston; married in 1862 to Hannah North; born 5 children, 4 living.
Rebecca (Hiles) Odell: age 77, born in Illinois Aug. 3, 1836, daughter of John and Elizabeth Hiles; married Moses Odell; born 11 children, 6 living. Married again to Alonzo Switzer. John Hiles died at the age of 40 and Elizabeth at 37.
Elizabeth (Hardway) McCoy: age 77, born in Ohio Sept. 8 1836, daughter of Andrew and Margaret Hardway; married in 1859 to Albert McCoy; born 7 children, 5 living, Nora, Mattie, Ausby, Wm. and Charles. Married again to Jacob Wineman. Parents died at the age of 84.
Mary (Cox) Boyd: age 77, born in Hutsonville township April 4, 1837, daughter of Matthew and Anna Cox, granddaughter of Braxton and Anna Cox, great-granddaughter of Nancy Cox who lived to be 115 years old; married John S. Boyd; born 3 children, 1 living. Matthew died at 75 and his wife at 65.
Paulina (Conrad) Winters: age 76, born in Hutsonville township Sept. 13, 1837, daughter of Abraham and Rebecca Conrad; married in 1857 to Cyrus Winters; born 12 children, 8 living.
Aaron Guyer: age 76, born in Hutsonville township Nov. 29, 1837, married in 1860 to Josephine Evans; born 4 children, 3 living.
George Fultz: age 76, born in Virginia Jan. 10, 1838, son of Joseph and Mary Fultz; married in 1868 to Fanny Drake; born 8 children, 2 living.
Mary J. (Willard) Pearce: age 76, born in Hutsonville Feb. 9, 1838, daughter of Charles and Lucy Willard, granddaughter of Daniel and Sarah Willard; married in 1863 to John Pearce; born 12 children, 7 living.
Dr. Wm. Eaton: age 76, born in Indiana Feb 27, 1838, son of Charles and Sarah Eaton; married in 1867 to Eliza Griffith; born 5 children, 3 living. Married again to Martha Clark in 1890.
Sarah (Horning) Colliflower: age 75, born in Hutsonville township May 18, 1838, daughter of Isaac and Sarah Horning; married Jan. 3, 1860 to W. J. Colliflower; born 10 children, 7 living.
Mary A. (Horn) Anderson: age 75, born in Ohio June 6, 1838, daughter of Washington and Elizabeth Horn, granddaughter of Wm. and Elizabeth Horn; married in 1866 to Samuel Anderson; born 4 children, 2 living.
John W. Reynolds: age 75, born in Indiana May 11, 1838, son of Abel and Sarah Reynolds, grandson of Jesse and Wilmetta Reynolds; married Louisa Willard; born 8 children, 5 living. Abel died at 94 and Sarah at 77.
James Fesler: age 75, born Oct. 1, 1838, son of Nicholas and Lucinda Fesler; married to Ellen Willison. Married again to Melissa F. King; born 8 children. Married again to Matilda Jones. Nelson Carpenter: age 75, born in Darwin, Illinois, Dec 19, 1838, son of Jacob and Fannie Carpenter; married in 1875 to Margaret Truitt. No children.
Wm. Prevo: age 74, born in Clark County, Indiana Feb. 25, 1839, son of Wm. and Cethia B. Prevo, grandson of Samuel Prevo; married in 1862 to Panina Willard; born 5 children, 2 living. Wm. Prevo died at 65 and Cethia died at 60.
Sally A. (Musgrave) Seigle: age 74, born in Hutsonville township Feb. 16, 1840, daughter of Wm. and Eliza Musgrave, granddaughter of John and Charity Musgrave; married in 1863 to Theodore Seigle; born 8 children, 7 living. Wm. Musgrave died at 72 and Eliza at 72.
John Montgomery; age 73, born in Ohio April 1, 1840, son of Wm. and Mary Montgomery, grandson of Samuel Montgomery; married in 1865 to Elizabeth Ball at York; born one child. Mr. and Mrs. Montgomery separated in about 1873 and married again in 1913. Wm. Montgomery died at 65 and Mary at 39.
Malinda (Guyer) Spivey: age 73, born in Hutsonville township May 7, 1840, daughter of Axiom and Susan Guyer; married in 1867 to Joseph Willard. Married again in 1872 to Evan Spivey; born 4 children, 2 living. Axiom Guyer died at the age of 75 and Susan at 72.
Daniel Dry: age 73, born in Pennsylvania June 15, 1840, son of George and Elizabeth Dry; married Hannah Thompson; born 8 children, 3 living.
Thomas Anderson: age 73, born in Ohio July 16, 1840, son of Wm. and Agnes Anderson, grandson of Wm. Anderson; married April 15, 1883 to Elizabeth Johnson; born 1 child. (has a notation that Thomas died 26, March 1914).
N. W. Lowe: age 73, born in Hutsonville township July 30, 1840, son of Wm. and Elizabeth Lowe; married in 1864 to Irene Correll; born 10 children.
John L. Cox: age 73, born in Hutsonville township Dec. 10, 1840, son of Thomas and Debby Cox, grandson of John and Zelpha Cox; married Jan. 25, 1866 to Augusta Rains. Married again Nov. 25, 1875 to Lucinda Mickey; born 8 children, 6 living. Converted in June 1860, began preaching the Gospel in 1868.
John Kinney: age 73, born in Vermillion County, IL, Dec. 30, 1840, son of George and Elizabeth Kinney, grandson of Isaac and Mercy Kinney; grandson on mothers side of John and Sarah Reynolds, John Reynolds had a brick blacksmith shop southeast of where the coal docks now is; married Dec. 30, 1859 to Nancy E. Boughs; born 7 children, 6 living.
Harriet (Hollenbeck) Lindley: age 72, born in Clark County, IL, March 26, 1841, daughter of John and Estella Hollenbeck; married in 1861 to Samuel Lindley; born 7 children, 6 living.
Matilda (Farmer) Fesler: age 72, born May 14, 1841, daughter of Ephraim and Minerva Farmer; married in 1863 to Andrew Jones. Married again in 1893 to James Fesler.
Josephine (Evans) Guyer: age 72, born in Hutsonville township April 3, 1842, daughter of Thomas and Lucy A. Evans; married in 1860 to Aaron Guyer; born 4 children, 3 living.
Mary (Layton) Hill: age 72, born in Ohio July 20, 1842, daughter of Armstead, and Hannah Layton; married to Pembrook Hill; born 2 children, 1 living, Chester. Married again to William Reynolds.
Harper Reynolds: age 71, born in Hutsonville township Aug. 23, 1842, son of Enos and Mary Reynolds, grandson of John and Elizabeth Reynolds; married in 1868 to Sarah H. Buckner; born 1 child. Married again in 1873 to Katherine Bradbury; born 5 children, 3 living.
Catherine (Batey) Martin: age 71, born Sept. 9, 1842, daughter of Henry and Martha Batey, granddaughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Batey; married in 1861 to Harry H. Flesher; born 2 children, none living. Married again Jan. 7, 1897 to Walker Martin.
Isaac N. Horning: age 71, born in Pennsylvania Sept. 11, 1842, son of Isaac and Sarah Horning; married Mary Harry; born 5 children, all living.
G. B. Everingham: age 71, born in Hutsonville township March 2, 1843, son of John and Sarah Everingham, grandson on mother's side Nathial and Elizabeth Newlin; married Feb. 4, 1868 to Anna Musgrave; born 6 children, all living. Nathail and Elizabeth Newlin both died at 89.
Samuel Ayers: age 71, born in Pennsylvania March 24, 1843, son of Wm. and Margaret Ayers; married in 1867 to Rebecca Robinson; born 10 children, 6 living.
Martha (Cox) Stiles: age 71, born in Hutsonville township April 9, 1843, daughter of Thomas and Debby Cox; married in 1863 to Richard L. Stiles; born 8 children, 3 living.
Wm. Grizzle: age 70, born in Georgia May 16, 1843, son of Larkin and Elizabeth Grizzle, grandson of Wm. and Cecila Grizzle; married to Laura Blankinship; born 1 child. Married again to Barriria Stewart; born 5 children, 2 living.
Elizabeth (Holmes) Newlin: age 76, born in Hutsonville township May 26, 1843, daughter of Reuben and Lucy Holmes, granddaughter of Geo Holmes; married in 1859 to Elias Newlin; born 4 children, 3 living.
Margaret (Truitt) Carpenter: age 70, born in Hutsonville township June 22, 1843, daughter of Robert and Mary Truitt; married in 1875 to Nelson Carpenter.
Wm. O. McCoy: age 70, born in Hutsonville township June 29, 1843, son of Wm. and Sarah McCoy, grandson of Alex McCoy; married in 1869 to Angeline Cox; born 7 children, 4 living.
Irene (Correll) Lowe: age 70, born in Hutsonville township Sept. 24, 1843, daughter of Hiram and Rebecca Correll, granddaughter of John and Mary Correll; married in 1864 to N. W. Lowe; born 10 children.
Cella (Cassidy) Lake: age 70, born in Indiana Sept. 8, 1843, daughter of Johnson and Katherine Cassidy; married to Thomas Hall; born 5 children, 1 living. Married again to Henry Lake; born 2 children.
Lydia A. (Horning) Furry: age 70, born in Ohio Oct. 4, 1843, daughter of Isaac and Sarah Horning; married in 1860 to Emanuel Furry; born 3 children, all living.
Joseph Kopta: age 70, born in Bohemia March 4, 1844; son of Jacob and Ina Kopta; married in 1872 to Lucinda Evans; born 2 children. Married again to Charlotte Shew.
Nelson Clark: age 70, born in Pennsylvania March 4, 1844, son of Lorenzo and Lucy Clark, grandson of John and Hannah A. Clark; married in 1867 to Mary Barker; born 1 child. Married again in 1874 to Cecila Cox; born 2 children, both living. Lorenzo died at 78 and Lucy at 76.
Maria (Vickery) Johnson: age 70, born in Sullivan County June 26, 1844, daughter of Christopher and Mary Vickery, granddaughter of Adam Vickery; married in 1866 to Bailey Johnson; born 4 children, 1 living. W. E. Kinman: age 70, born in Indiana Oct. 2, 1844, son of Leonard and Sarah Kinman; married in 1865 to Emily Miley; born 2 children both living.
Appendix C:
Evidence of Maiden Name of Celia, Wife of
William H. Grizzle: Information Given by
Larkin Grizzle at His Second Marriage
From the Research of Larry Grizzle
See entry #41.
Appendix D: Descendants of John Henry Grizzle
By John Alexander: Incomplete Still in Progress
- Grizzle
- Andrew Jackson, son of John and Sally
- Elias, son of James and Rachel King
- Eliza , daughter of John and Sally
- Elizabeth , daughter of John and Sally
- Elvira , daughter of John and Sally
- Henry, son of James and Rachel King
- James, son of John Henry
- James A. , son of John and Sally
- James Bryson/Brison, son of James and Rachel King (also used name Griswold)
- Jane, daughter of James and Rachel King
- John, son of John Henry
- John, son of James and Rachel King
- Joseph, son of James and Rachel King
- Lewis Madison , son of John and Sally
- Malinda , daughter of John and Sally
- Mary, daughter of James and Rachel King
- Miller, son of James and Rachel King
- Nancy J. , daughter of John and Sally
- Polly McClure , daughter of John and Sally
- Rebecca, daughter of John Henry
- Sarah A. , daughter of John and Sally
- William C., son of John and Sally
- Griswold
- Butler
- Hiram Butler, son of Malinda and Ruben Butler
- John Butler, son of Malinda and Ruben Butler
- Sarah Butler, daughter of Malinda and Ruben Butler
- William Butler, son of Malinda and Ruben Butler
- Gilbert
- George Washington Gilbert, son of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- Jasper Gilbert, son of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- John Gilbert, son of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- Katherine Gilbert, daughter of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- Lucinda Gilbert, daughter of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- Mary Gilbert, daughter of Nancy Sutton and Simeon Gilbert
- Martha Gilbert, daughter of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- Martha Catherine Gilbert, daughter of Nancy Sutton and Simeon Gilbert
- Rozilla Gilbert, daughter of Nancy Sutton and Simeon Gilbert
- Thomas Gilbert, son of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- William Marion Gilbert, son of Mary Ann Sutton and Francis Marion Gilbert
- William E. Gilbert, son of Nancy Sutton and Simeon Gilbert
- Gooch
- Elizabeth Gooch, daughter of Elizabeth and Samuel Gooch
- Elizabeth Gooch, daughter of Elvira and James Gooch
- James M. Gooch, son of Elizabeth and Samuel Gooch
- James Gooch, son of Elvira and James Gooch
- John Gooch, son of Elvira and James Gooch
- Laura A. Gooch, daughter of Elizabeth and Samuel Gooch
- Lucinda Gooch, son of Elvira and James Gooch
- Madison Gooch, son of Elvira and James Gooch
- Malinda Caroline Gooch, daughter of Elizabeth and Samuel Gooch
- Martha L. Gooch, daughter of Elizabeth and Samuel Gooch
- Mary A. Gooch, daughter of Elizabeth and Samuel Gooch
- Rachel Gooch, daughter of Elvira and James Gooch
- Rosa Elizabeth Gooch, daughter of Elvira and James Gooch
- Samuel Gooch, son of Elvira and James Gooch
- Sarah Ann Gooch, daughter of Elvira and James Gooch
- William Gooch, son of Elvira and James Gooch
- William V. Gooch, son of Elizabeth and Samuel Gooch
- Lee
- Artimissa Lee, daughter of Eliza and John Lee
- Clarissa Lee, daughter of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Diademma Lee, daughter of Eliza and John Lee
- Ephraim Lee, son of Eliza and John Lee
- Ephraim Lee, son of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Henry Lee, daughter of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- James Lee, son of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- John Lee, son of Eliza and John Lee
- Joseph Lee, son of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Keziah Lee, daughter of Eliza and John Lee
- Lecina Lee, daughter of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Mary Lee, daughter of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Marion Lee, son of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Samuel Lee, son of Eliza and John Lee
- Sarah Lee, daughter of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Thomas Lee, son of Eliza and John Lee
- Thomas Lee, son of Sarah Ann and Thomas Lee
- Sutton
- Andrew Sutton, son of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- Amanda Sutton, daughter of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- Harriet Sutton, daughter of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- James Sutton*, probable son of Rebecca and Edward Sutton
- James Alfred Sutton, son of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- John Sutton, son of Rebecca and Edward Sutton
- John Sutton, son of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- Lela Sutton, daughter of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- Mary Sutton, daughter of Rebecca and Edward Sutton
- Mary A. Sutton, daughter of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- Nancy Sutton, daughter of Rebecca and Edward Sutton
- Sarah J. Sutton, daughter of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
- Thomas Sutton, son of James Sutton and Eliza Gooch
Note: I could not find sufficient evidence to claim with certainty that James was the son of Edmond and Rebecca Grizzle Sutton, but such is likely. He married in Lumpkin County where Rebecca and Edmond lived, and his marriage partner was Eliza Gooch, from a family with whom other members of the Grizzle family had marriages. Some may use the counter-argument that James and Eliza did not name any of their children Edmond or Rebecca.
Family of William H. Grizzle and Celia Smith Family of James Grizzle and Rachel King: to be added Family of Rebecca Grizzle and Edward Sutton
Appendix E:
The Generations
by John Alexander With Assistance by Sherry Grizzle and Larry Grizzle
Still in Progress
In general, we have not followed the daughters' families, whose surnames are not Grizzle, more than one generations.
The number 0 denotes the generation of John Henry Grizzle's father, whose identity is uncertain, and the number 1 denotes the next generation with the alphabetic characters assigned to the children in that generation. Since we are sure of only John Henry, he gets the first letter of the alphabet and becomes 1a. John Henry's children become 2a1, 2a2, 2a3, etc. The line followed will be in bold type. The numbering and lettering will not necessarily be the birth order since we are sometimes not sure of that order. For example, we assigned 2a1 to John Henry's son John, 2a2 to William, and so forth. For the next generation, 3a2a is William's and Celia's son Larkin, 3a2b is William, and 3a2c is Val's ancestor, James Madison, or Matt.
0. Father of John Henry, most likely William of colonial Virginia, but uncertain) An earlier ancestor was likely another William Grizzlle, born in Europe, probably Great Britain, in the early 16th century, migrated to colonial Virgina in 1654. (That William, the 1654 immigrant, is an ancestor can be only speculation, our hypothesis, but such appears very likely.) John Henry's father was certainly from Virginia, but little else is so certain. John Henry probably had brothers and sisters.
- 1a. John Henry, born 1760-1770, Virginia
- 2a1. Rebecca, born about 1790; married Edmond Sutton
- 2a2. John, born bet 1790 & 1794 (birth date taken from analysis of all records found); married Sarah "Sallie" Taylor
- 2a3.William H., born about 1795; married Celia Ann Smith
- 3a3a. Larkin, born about 1820; married Elizabeth (possibly Presley)
- 3a3b. Nancy, born 1820-1825; marriage not discovered, but slight possibility to Aaron Watkins
- 3a3c. Jane Sophronia, born 1825-1828; married Miles Wood(s)
- 3a3d. William, born about 1830
- 3a3e. James Madison "Matt", born August 1834/1835; married Eliza Caroline Wimpy
- 2a4. Betsey, born about 1790; married Thomas Covington
- 2a5. James, born 1803 or 1804; married Rachel King
- 2a6. Tempy, born about 1810; marrried Allan Henderson
- Family of James Madison Grizzle and Eliza Caroline Wimpy
- 4a3a1. William Henley, 2 August 1860; used name William Henry during adulthood;
married Lulah Ellis; married also Ollie Bonner (no children)
- 5a3a1a. Lowie Clyde, about 1895, marriage unknown
- 5a3a1b. Eugene, about 1897; married Vessie, or Eunora, Sprayberry
- 6a3a1b1. Ida Elizabeth, January 1920; married Keith Phelps Davis
- 6a3a1b2. William Henry, August 1921; married Esther Walker (apparently no children)
- 5a3a2a. George M. Turner
- 5a3a2b. James E. Turner
- 5a3a2c. Carrie E. Turner
- 5a3a2d. Mabel, or Maybell, Turner
- 5a3a2e. Maud Turner
- 4a3a3. Thomas Francis, 18 August 1863; married Jemima M. Byrd (no offspring data)
- 4a3a4. John Henry, 21 September 1866
- 4a3a5. James Taylor, 12 August 1864; married Mary Gravely (Val's and Sherry's branch; discussed in more detail)
- 4a3a6. George Washington 8 June 1868; married Carrie Rainey
- 5a3a6a. Ernest, 1893
- 5a3a6b. Edward, 1896
- 5a3a6c. Nania, 1899
- 4a3a7. Arch Wimpey, 11 February 1876
- 4a3a8. Fanny Elizabeth "Lizzie", 21 March 1878; married Robert Chastain
- 5a3a8a. Ernest, 1893